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on Wed, 11/14/2012 - 14:08
Fight Child Protection Department Corruption: 
Kathie Parker Now a Manager in DoCS Armidale

One of the incidences I told DoCS about when I was working for them was that a computer another Foster Parent( Phillip and Kelly Reynolds Emmaville NSW) had got me to fix contained Child Pornography. The money they payed me or my ex wife for respite care was given to us from petty cash, in our hands. It appeared to me that what my ex wife was doing was ethically wrong and morally wrong, I tried repeatedly to tell her how I felt but she seemed hell bent on the money and reputation she had gained from working for DoCS and her own family didn’t matter.

Michael,I am writing to you because I came across your LukesArmy website and was greatly moved by the loss of your son. I am in completely different circumstances and have not suffered the loss of a child, although I am basically estranged from all four of my children today. My involvement with DoCS NSW began with my ex wife gaining employment with them in Glen Innes NSW DoCS in 2006.

I have listed some headings in the preceeding pages with details that correspond. I have attempted to share a balanced account of my expereices and have not excluded the reality of my failings as a Foster Parent/Husband of a DoCS Case Worker (child Protection), now a Manager in DoCS Armidale, Kathie Parker.

As we had the four children and owned a gift shop, I was the main caregiver of our children and my wifes neice (since she was four yrs old)(financed by DoCS “kinship care”).

I will attatch documents that will pertain to what I say, including a statement made by my ex wife (who was acting Manager Moree DoCS at the time of statement), inwhich she states at the top of the page that I had been hospitalised with suicide attempts, that I was intoxicated all the time but the majority of the time my intoxication was “medium” (?!) and that I was “diagnosed” with Chronic Depression. At the bottom of the same page my ex wife states that “Glenn was the responsible (?!) adult while I was out of the house”.

All the DoCS workers at Glen Innes NSW knew I was not fit to be the main carer of myself let alone children. At the time I was morbidly obese with high blood pressure and kidney failure(Hypertensive Nephritis). On the occassions I had been charged with drink driving or made a suicide attempt the police and the hospital had made mandatory reports to DoCS and they (DoCS of Glen Innes and Armidale) came and interveiwed me. Nothing ever happened from these incidents, DoCS never folowed up with support for the children (not even checking on them) and no support or disciplanary action given to me. I beleive that no support or action taken against me was because DoCS wanted their “reputation” to be unaffected by what I (a Foster Parent/husband of a DoCS worker) was doing.

My ex wife was generally out of the family home every day of the week from 8am to 6pm and attended traing courses 1week out of the month in Sydney (away from the home and the children). My ex wife also stayed away from home when doing “acting” Manager (DoCS) jobs at which times I was always left to care for the children. DoCS had many functions that I attended at the Pub, Club and many cocktail parties at their private homes, Christmas parties. The alcohol was free and I was always drunk at these functions.

Knowing all this about me DoCS not only left me to care for my own children but kept sending foster children to stay with us. They knew I was the main carer but it never prevented the children from being approved to stay at our home. The money they payed me or my ex wife for respite care was given to us from petty cash, in our hands and the “carer allowance” would be paid into our joint bank account. There was always money, never any money worries with the extra children.

I was extremely unhappy with the situation and lost in a spiral of alchol abuse to the point where the Doctor had put me on Naltrexone for addiction and Cipramil (citalopram) and Effexor for depression. And other medication for my high blood presure. I tried repeatedly to discuss a change of lifestyle with my ex wife, even telling her that I did not want anymore children brought to our home. My ex wife wouldn’t listen to me and I underwent 2 years of drug and alcohol counselling and AA . I was committed to the Psychaitric Unit of Tamworth Hospital and hospitalised at Glen Innes on a seperate occassion. As it appeared to me that what my ex wife was doing was ethically wrong and morally wrong, I tried repeatedly to tell her how I felt but she seemed hell bent on the money and reputation she had gained from working for DoCS and her own family didn’t matter.

As you will see from attatched documents I ended up committing a crime against one of the young people living with us, although at the time I honestly didn’t know it was a crime. I was drunk and left alone again with all the children; this time I had been caring for them on my own for 2 weeks while my ex wife (the DoCS worker) was away at Moree working as the acting Manager in the Moree office of DoCS. I do not excuse myself from what I did but I was accused of much much worse and my ex wife and all of the DoCS workers turned their backs on me and have continued to this day to do so. I beleive they ( my ex wife and DoCS) want to be dissassociated from any responsibilty or blame for what happened.

After leaving my home that I shared with my ex wife and children I was not permitted back and later went to jail and all my belongings were taken to the tip. My children were told lie upon lie about me by my ex wife (the DoCS worker) and all of them have suffered greatly because of this. My children all ended up living out of the family home within a year of me leaving and their ages at this time were 19, 17, 15 and 13 years of age. My children became sexually active, used alcohol and other drugs and one was caught stealing food from the local supermarket.

None of the children continued to finish their educations. The foster child that remained with her during the breakup is still at school as far as I am aware. There have been other foster children come and go from my ex wifes care since then. My ex wife was not suspened from her work duties when the incident happened that caused me to leave home and subsequently go to jail, she was rather promoted to Manager in Armidale DoCS and receives around the $100 000 mark a year in wages (not including foster carer payments).

Another thing I found out when I received a child care bill last year is that my ex wife had been receiving the Family Tax Benefit for our children during the time that the children were not in here care. There are other legal matters that were handled corruptly, including a property settlement my ex wife arranged whilst I was still on remand in jail and we had not divorced yet.

I have remarried now and am no longer morbidly obese (lost 50 kgs), I am not on medication for my kidneys, I do not take blood pressure medication, I am not abusing alcohol, I am not on any medication for depression and am not depressed. DoCS opened a case against my wife because she married me and sent JIRT out to interveiw her children and told the children I had “raped” a girl. Which was untrue and proven so in court. DoCS now consider me a “high” risk to any child under the age of 18 years. DoCS has been asking family and freinds about myself and my wife.

It appears to me that my ex wife and her colleagues are persecuting me now because I have a voice and know what they did and failed to do. I know that they did not have my children or the foster children in my cares interest at heart. Nor did they take my ability as a carer seriously into consideration while repeatedly sending me children to care for.

One of the incidences I told DoCS about when I was working for them was that a computer another Foster Parent (Phillip and Kelly Reynolds Emmaville NSW) had got me to fix contained Child Pornography. The manager of Glen innes DoCS at the time, Connie, and assistant manager Tina Zart (now working Wyong DoCS) took a statement from me. I was told it would be investigated but they (Phillip and Kelly Reynolds) continue to foster children. This is one of the things that really did and still does disturb me but at the time I was having a battle just to stay sane and alive.

If I could go back and be well as I am today I would take my children and get as far away as possible from any involvement with DoCS. As a foster carer my freindships were limited and as a husband to a DoCS worker I was isolated in the community. My neighbours on both sides of me had had their children removed by DoCS and my wife had even fabricated truths and told outright lies to police about others. I was there at the police station on one occassion that my ex wife told police that an Aboriginal man had said he would kill us, but it was not true. On that occassion I was completely shocked and also drunk (2am in the morning Guyra police station).

There are more instances that involve the misconduct of my ex wife (the DoCS worker) and her co-workers. I will leave it at that for now as it is painful for me aswell to recall what went on and the fact that I was powerless at the time to do what I would today....THE RIGHT THING!

Medical history at time of living with ex wife.

Diagnosed Chronic Depression

Kidney Disease

High Blood Pressure

Morbidly Obese

Suicidal

Daily Alcohol Abuse

Charges of drink driving while living with ex wife.

1st Mid range, Loss of license for 6 months

2nd Mid range, Loss of license 2 years (2 foster children, 1 bio child in car and dog in the boot)

Ex wife’s away from home trips as a DoCS worker.

Monthly (1 week away from home) training in Sydney

Acting managerial positions when required (2 weeks or more at a time away from home)

Foster children coming and going (respite etc).

3 longterm foster children

Dozens of respite care foster placements

 

Money generated from foster kids.

Family Tax Benefit

Foster Carer Allowance

Emergency Placement allowance (Petty Cash)

Furniture

Car

 

Time spent caring for all children, who did majority.

I did, the alcohol abusing, chronically depressed, morbidly obese, suicidal care giver.

 

Level of training, education and workplace responsibilities of the ex wife.

My ex wife had no Degree when initially employed by DoCS

My ex wife was allowed to gain her degree whilst employed by DoCS

My ex wife was a mandatory reporter of children at risk

Incident that caused the marital breakdown.

I had sexual intercourse with a 16 year old female foster child.

Consequences of incident.

I was accused of 2 counts of aggrevated sexual assault

I was charged with 2 counts of aggrevated sexual asault

I was unable to live at home

I was unable to talk to my children

I was held on remand for 14 months

I was found not guilty of 2 counts of aggrevated sexual assault

I plead guilty to intercourse with a person over the age of 16 years and under the age of 18 years in your care

I was convicted to serve 18 months in jail

I was convicted to 18 months parole

I am now listed on the CPR for 15 years

I am considered a high risk to reoffend by DoCS

I am monitored bt the CCMG

I am mostly estranged from my biological children

Current medical status.

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder

Nolonger morbidly obese (lost 50 kgs)

No longer depressed or on any antidepression medication

Nolonger abusing alcohol

Nolonger have high blood pressure

Nolonger have kidney disease

Current legal status.

On parole

CCMG monitored

CPR

Current involvement with DoCS.

Wife has an open case against her because DoCS has now classified me a high risk

How I feel about the system.

The Department of Community Services Child Protection, in my opinion and based on my real life first hand experiences is NOT about the children. It is all about the money and if your one of them (DoCS) worker or in with them you can be lapse in your duties if not criminal and get away with it. If you are not in with DoCS or you dont work for them and they decide to work against you look out. DoCS are liars and answer to noone but each other.

They will fabricate the truth, twist your words, defame your character, and put their own reputations far ahead of any integrity or ethical responsibilty. I am ashamed of what I did, how I use to live and the fact that I didn’t get out of the circumstances myself. I was forced out of my old life and I now thank God for that. I would rather be on the wrong side of DoCS and the right side of the truth any day of the week. I bare my shame but can they bare theres?!!!!!

 

So I rang the office at DoCS Armidale about Kathie Parker the DoCS manager there, do you think they will do anythig about it???

 

What about the DoCS NSW complaints line, will they do something about the corrupt manager Kathie Palmer at Armidale???

 

I rang the New South Wales Ombudsman in control of DoCS NSW Complaints.

 

I rang the ICAC NSW Independant Commission Against Crime New South Wales, when are they gonna do something about the DoCS corruption in NSW?

 

I have spoken to the office of Pru Goward, DoCS NSW minister, do you think she will do something about the corrupt docs manager at DoCS Armidale???

 

So I have rung the icac, the ombudsmen, pru goward, child safety complaints and the Armidale office. I just want people to see that if you ring up next week, this manager will still be there. So what do we expect for Luke? Nothing, the manager of DoCS Cairns north Pat Anderson will get away with kidnap and murder, and she is still the manager, and still stealing babies. Disgusting the whole lot of em, docs and anyone who sits by and does nothing while they know about this corruption.

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IN THE DISTRICT COURT

OF NEW SOUTH WALES

CRIMINAL JURISDICTION

 

ACTING JUDGE MCLAUCHLAN

 

ARMIDALE: THURSDAY 11 NOVEMBER 2010

 

2009/47424 - R v Victim of DoCS NSW

 

SENTENCE

 

HIS HONOUR: The offender pleaded guilty to an offence under s 73(1) of the Crimes Act, which provides a maximum penalty of eight years imprisonment, where a person has sexual intercourse with another person who is (a) under his special care and (b) sixteen years old and under seventeen years old.

The victim in this case was a niece by marriage who was a foster child of the offender. On 5 April 2009 the offender drank a large quantity of beer and became highly intoxicated. His wife was working elsewhere in Moree and he had the sole care of the victim. He was then aged thirty-eight years and the victim sixteen years.

The victim was in her room and in bed. He entered the bedroom and sat on the bed with her. He became sexually aroused and had penile vaginal sexual intercourse with her, which continued until the offender ejaculated. He then got off the victim, pulled up his underpants and said “sorry darling, it will never happen again, I love you” before leaving the room.

Some days later the victim rang her mother from school and told her what had happened. A complaint was made and on 27 April 2009, the offender attended a police station by arrangement with the police. He was formally charged and granted conditional bail.

The offender was originally charged with two counts of sexual intercourse without consent. He was not charged with the current offence until after the commencement of the trial. He pleaded guilty to this offence before the jury at the commencement of the trial. The Crown did not accept his plea in full satisfaction of the indictment and the trial continued.

During cross-examination of the victim, she indicated she no longer wished to participate in the trial and the Crown offered no further evidence in respect of the two counts of sexual intercourse without consent. The offender first indicated his willingness to plead guilty to the current offence after the matter had been committed for trial and prior to the arraignment.

Counsel for the offender points out that but for the plea, the offender would not now be before the Court. I consider that a discount for the plea should be in the range of fifteen per cent to twenty-five per cent and in all the circumstances, I will allow it at twenty per cent.

The offender breached a condition of his bail by writing to his daughter, as a result of which he was taken into custody on 29 September 2009 and has remained in custody up to the present time, a period of approximately fourteen months.

Consistently with the fact that the victim failed to continue proceedings against the offender, there is no victim impact statement. The offender has no significant relevant criminal history.

The root of his problem seems to be an addiction to alcohol, which he has had for a long time and for which he has an urgent need for counselling and treatment. Together with measures to address a deep seeded grief, which apparently he experiences as a result of his mother’s death and the break-up of his marriage of some twenty years as a result of this offence.

He has demonstrated remorse for his actions. I am satisfied that he is willing to undergo rehabilitation in respect of these matters and I expect that his present situation is such that he will make a genuine and strong attempt to successfully complete programs made available to him.

I think he is unlikely to re offend and I accept that the offences occurred because his ability to control his actions and to make proper judgments, was seriously compromised by his drunken state at the time.

In that sense, the offence was not a result of planned or organised behaviour on his part. Nevertheless, the offence is inherently a very serious one, involving as it does a serious breach of trust and in this case, the fact that he was a mature adult and the victim merely an adolescent girl.

The offender’s pressing need for rehabilitation constitutes special circumstances, justifying varying the statutory parole and non-parole period.

Bearing in mind the maximum sentence of eight years imprisonment, I consider that an appropriate head sentence is a term of three years imprisonment in this case.

It is, as the Crown submitted, a matter of serious aggravation that the offender continued the intercourse to the point of ejaculation. I consider that a non-parole period should be fixed of eighteen months, followed by a balance of term of the same length.

I therefore fix a non parole period of eighteen months commencing on 29 September 2009 and ending on 28 March 2011. To be followed by a balance of term commencing on 29 March 2011 and ending on 28 September 2012. Whilst on parole the offender will be subject to the supervision of the Probation and Parole Service.

Considering the objective seriousness of the offence, I consider the offender has been treated relatively lightly and I have done so in the hope and expectation that he will take effective steps in cooperation with the authorities to achieve rehabilitation with respect to his psychological and addiction problems.

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Since your blog is so long, it will take me a while to reply but since you want to bring God into it, I sent Pat Anderson who could have quite easily saved my son's life an email on mothers day, I forgive you Pat.

Yes I forgive her, and the other docs managers. But to sit back and watch them continue their evil is far from righteous.

I must admit, though I rang a docs office today at Tweed and the front office girl gilr was obviously malicous, I have encountered better employees since this embarkement/investigation.

Donna, manager of DoCS complaints NSW although misguided and in a dreamworld about the authenticity of DoCS, was a shining light. This is my opinion and I am sure there are those who lives are devastated by her lack of insight, but her heart is in the right place, that is for certain.

 

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Seriously I made the Mandella comment not Michael.

I'm the last person you want to have a God conversation with and pardon me but I think you mite need to go back to your bible yourself.

Who are you to think you know what God thinks or says, and poor Luke.

Unfortunately, you are still missing the point. The legal fraternity have not acted IN GOOD FAITH.

DoCS do NOT answer to the laws.

I think you should perhaps go and read yourself the Charter of Human Rights, after you finish reading your bible.

Your blog post goes to show the deficites that are rather apparant within the Churches when one is so very in need that they go there to look for help and find that there is none. None in society, one in the churches.

You really do not understand the extent of what is being done here. So again I would suggest you do some more research and find out how many families have been destroyed by DoCS and Child Protective Services World Wide. Have a look at some of the kids who have been through the system and are still alive, or rather struggling to stay that way, not to mention the parents. If you are still not satisfied with your research into the bible, human rights, and the victims of foster systems, then perhaps you could do a bit of psych research into the lingering effects of familial breakdown.

Then when you are done there lets talk about the restitution of families, because the breakdown of family units and involvement of government to aid the situation and do nothing to continue working with a family once they have broken it up, well this is the very basis of why our society is breaking down.

You seem to be very onesided and blinded yourself and as a someone who does not want to see this tradegy get even worse, I would say that you are talking off the top of your head in response to someone you know becoming under attack. Again this is what Michael, who is a warrior choosen, I do not doubt, but still as human as the rest of us, is trying to explain to you. We had no recourse, our children were simply taken, and if you do the research you will see that the Church has had a large hand in this operation and still does and that once again, the abusers of the past NGO's (paid by government) are involved in the removal of children from parents who love them but have themselves been crucified by agencies like DoCS.

Again, I will explain to you, that Michael is NOT alone, nor is he ACTING ALONE. He is all that many people have to keep them holding onto their lives. I for one would say Michael has God on his side and he is doing GOOD STUFF, where no one else would help many of US.

I seriously have to say that perhaps you would like to think about REPENTANCE and I seriously would add to this that so too do many others out there WHO STOLE OUR KIDS.....

Obviously, DoCS have not taken yours, or hurt them, or given them to people who do hurt kids.... this explains your extreme behaviour and need to protect a DoCS worker when really she has all the laws of the land on her side because DoCS are a law unto themselves particulary when the VICTIM has no support network or is a vulnerable person themselves.

I say RESTORE THE FAMILIES. Bring your DoCS funding over to that so that mother and child can be reunited. Father and son reunited. I think God LIKES this and I feel the power of him telling me to write this here and to encourage Michael to keep up the good work in supporting people who have been devasted in their hearts by a government that just does not care for ALL its people.

One more thing.... "all ya need is love" -

Do you believe that what you say here is from a loving heart? I gotta say you don't get to speak for the Lord, or tell us we can't express what has happened to US and OUR FAMILIES.

We really can't feel for your precious DoCS workers job because many of US have been left so disabled from their behaviours acted out towards US and my dear we are VICTIMS, many of US from more than you can imagine probably. The people who promote and maintain these websites are the very last vestiges for many of US. So I hope if you are part of a Church group that you would encourage you fellowship to come to this and the other sites, and see the multitudes that have been left in shock and feel like VICTIMS - for a reason...

There is no battle with God here He does everything in his own time, He has a plan for all of US, He allows the world to function in exactly the right way at the right moment. As horrible as this feels to Michael he knows that their is a reason why his boy died, and I am sure he will explain that here, once again, for you in his own good time. Just for you.

There are so many things I could continue to explain but it is just simple really. The man has a mission, he is being guided in it. Not everyone is going to be impressed by him or what he says, his mind has been opened to things most of us will never understand, because it did not happen to us, like it happened to him.

You need to read the bible with a different translation maybe and you need to realise that the law has failed many of US which is the added kick in the head with DoCS, we are branded and excluded, not just from our own kids, but from working with children (even if this was part of our job requirement before) and we have to also live with our own conflicted emotion and thoughts at what "they" said but yet we never got to have our view and opinion even respected or listened to, again I will refer you to the Charter of Human Rights and I could give you a heap of laws if you like as well but really!

We all grieve, and you just dont get to tell a person how they should do this, but the thing is there was no need for many of us to grieve because we NEVER WOULD HAVE HURT OUR KIDS ANYWAY... but now they are gone from us.

I can't believe you went and inflicted this on Michael and say you come in Gods name but he doesn't. I am really glad that you understand that when you get to the end that God does the judging.

As an onlooker I will WITNESS and give TESTAMENT to the fact that Michael is coming from a place of GOOD FAITH. I also believe that his art work is part of the gift he has been given. I believe that God is truely with Michael and like many others that Luke really is with the Angels.

Do you think Michael could do all this without the backing of the supernatural?Because I don't.

My journey has taken me throught the Catholic, Jehovahs Witness, the Apostolic, Protestant, Pentacostal, the Evangelic, and the rest, only to realise that God is not in the Church in many of the Churches. I have met many wonderful people on this journey but they remain human, as we all are here. We are all sinners, but some people think they are not and are somehow above it. So anyways, I leave you with this.

"We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure, so that we despaired even of life. Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God, who raises the dead. He has delivered us from such a deadly peril, and he will deliver us again. On him we have set our hope that He will continue to deliver us, as you help by your prayers. Then many will give thanks on our behalf for the gracious favor granted us in answer to the prayers of so many" 2 Cor. 1:9-11.

Now when these things begin to take place, straighten up and raise your heads, because your redemption is drawing near. Jesus, Luke 21:28

The Fathers presence encircled Christ and nothin befell Him but that which infinite love permitted... He who is embued with the spirit of Christ abides in Christ... Romans 8:28

THESE ARE GOOD WORKS PLEASE BRING ALL YOUR FRIENDS TO READ OF THEM, this is the truth and the bible commands us that THOU SHALT NOT LIE, NOR COVET THY NEIGHBOUR.

....and isnt it funny that our Political and Judicial system was founded on the Churches beliefs yet here we are living in a time where a government employee can lie about us due to coveting us and a court can then ignore the innocent young VICTIMS of such crimes and the alleged "unfit parents" are not even allowed to protect their child and then in the CARE of the FIT ONES, the childs life is taken and NO ONE IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

....this is but a small portion of the deaths caused by this department because they cause trauma and people then go and kill themselves. So think about all that who is the victim, the DoCS worker or the CHILDREN they were meant to be protecting from their own parents????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marney MacDonald's picture

put mclaughlan in jail for allowing the rape of a child under the protection (baaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaa) of the minister to go without serious consequences.  this man is a maggot and obviously a dirty paedophile himself. judges giving leanient sentencing and faling to mention that the man was the wife of a docs worker at the time who knew about his alcohol addiction is shameful.

whats more the wife should have been charged with failure to provide safe home for children - of all people she should have known better.

 

but then hey how many people get to steal kids and keep them at the same time and profit from both sides ofthe coin?  no wonder she didn't give a flying cfuck.

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Valuable info. Fortunate me I found your web site by chance, and I am shocked why this twist of fate didn't took place earlier! I bookmarked it.

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Janine Ann Mireylees Cooper

I admire this man for speaking out about docs illegal corruption and blaintant twisting of truth and outright lies. Yes sir u did wrong borderline morally wrong but once, out of all the chances u had with all the different children in and out of your care.....was a genuine bad alcohol filled truly bad act and breach of trust, but your ex wife crimes are truly more cynically illegally, eviler than your crime.
Thank you for having the courage to overcome the guilt of your own wrongs and the fear of judgement of others, to speak out for the sake of others. Docs laugh in our faces, tell us we are crazy and wrong, when they lie in official documents have friends as carers that are not registered for the financial benefits and in my day march1998 BEFORE NSW chid care and protection legislation was changed in july1998 the law was you had to be registered with the department to foster children on behalf of the department..
Why the minister in our case after my complaints to them could not find any evidence of our supposed registered carers "despite extensive searches" is cause they where not! they where friends of grafton docs officer Catherine"kate" Elizabeth Brodie originally from Sydney where I believe she was transferred from black town docs office to grafton due to complaints of misconduct.

I was studying a bachelor of social science majoring in social sciences at 25, 1996/97.
I am an only child from a working middle class family,that for constantly being naughty at 13, was locked up in Juvenile detention centre for being "uncontrolable" to teach me a lesson. I became a state ward till I was 18 and hardly at home.

So at twentyish I
Thought good settled life marriage children and career, that is what led me to study the above, I thought with the life experience all I had to apply is the theory side and would have been a good worker.
 
I called and asked for respite care for a child with a disability as I was finding it hard to cope 2 years into being a single mum of 3 children under 5........

Docs thought and fought for the girls to be in my ex's custody to cover up their criminal negligence of my daughters in departmental care.
 
My ex at the time was a convicted sexual assaultistx3 back then . Now today all three of my daughters live with or close to me, all have talked about abuse in his care and now his current wife daughter lives with us also claiming abuse....
 
.this would not have happened in the first place if docs was not corrupt, meaning by placing my children on illegal unregistered foster care where two of my daughters where in a car accident when the unregistered carer ran a give way sign onto a major road into traffic y youngest was admitted to hospital where these so called carers discharged her against the doctors advice and know one while she was away fr my care sought follow ups for her even though she complained constantly about headaches and backaches.
 
I started screaming that these people where dodgy and made complaints about the docs officer to be told and made out to be crazy and an addict. They lied falsified evidence and I even have evidence against docs solicitor grafton Peter marr , an internal letter between the solicitor and the docs officer telling her that they where placing the children withy ex without the courts approval. Everything I claim I have hard evidence that I believe I can prove negligence without a doubt....yes pry Howard remember me and our meeting where you sat listened and saw the evidence???? What I learnt from her is that the ministers themselves do NOT even know their own policies and procedures, I was given the sympathic I'm sorry, got a letter stating ombudsman was dealing with it, the ombudsman only deals with current complaints that is classed as within the last three years seeing that between pru and Linda they did not realize their own ignorence of their guidelines and both gave me the letter pass the buck run around...
 
corruption blue collar how deep does it run???? So thank you for being brave to speak out and name as that gives others the courage to speak out and name to whether my life is in threat or not.
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Cindy Foley i live 2hrs away from armidale soon she will be transfered to tamworth and they took my babies so that is just f$$$$d..and f$$k pru goward that women dont give a s$$it about yur kids .

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Catherine Barlow Light this is a very brave man......to open up and share all his misgivings must have been terribly difficult. This woman should be in jail, its disgraceful and immoral. Why is she caring for kids??????? Why is she still employed by the department????? and why are we the only ones asking these questions?????

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If you knew this man you would have a different opinion. He is my daughters future father inlaw. He only wants to know his children when he wants something off them. He has tried to blame everyone but himself for doing time in jail. In my opinion he got off lightly. I personally know the minor he raped and he should be still rotting in jail. He even resorted to using emotional blackmail on his children while in jail, threatening suicide if they didn't do what he wanted. Yes I read the letter and wondered at the time what sort of a low life does that to their children.

Kathie on the otherhand is always there for her children, she was there when her grandchildren were born, Glenn wasn't because he didn't want to know his children at the time.

Kathie and I are not close friends that may or may not change in the future, but I couldn't hope for a better mother-in-law for my daughter. Kathie is the most honest and kindest person I have ever come across.

Lukes Dad's picture

This post is controversial and I apreciate you giving it a whole spectrum of input,

regards,

Michael.

trudy's picture

 sorry dear you do not know this man, you met him once or twice, he loves his children and he never wanted anything from them only loyalty from them, and you have the story all wrong;

he blames no one for his going to goal but himself, and the minor you say he raped, was not at all true and he was not charged with rape. he was charged having sex with a girl over sixteen and under17, if you read his charges that have been posted on this wall, and I also know the girl and the  true story and the real truth.. he is and was a very kind and generous man,he was not able to be around the children under 18 that alone be at a birth, by the way he has always been  their for his children he was a house husband, while his wife was away for weeks on end, get your story right. I have known him all my life, This man has been blessed by God, God has given a new beautiful Christian wife who loves him,  for real.

Help Fight Child Protection's picture

Cheryl Williams why cant one just one government minister ask for an investigation into docs but from someone other than another government department so its kept honest

Mumwhererya's picture

One rule for DoCS workers, another for those being investigated by DoCS....

The thing is JIRT and DoCS, NSW police, mental health, etc, bla bla,,,, didnt care about sex assault on my child who was in foster care placement.... and she was under 16 (the age of consent)....

They did NOT care about this same child getting abused by her step father either, (not enough vagina showing in the pictures of welts on her bum for Heidi Payne and Deb Cornal ect ect so many more and an Anna Marie Daley for the Aboriginal part of it! JIRT sent DoCS to look at the pictures they did NOT even bother to come themselves or confiscate the computer hard drive to see all the pornography he was into)..... so they put the little one in foster home for a couple of months and then gave her back to her daddy in another state and would NOT help me to see her and then the "agencies" made sure I was thrown into the street with a mental illness (PTSD which they friggin caused (set off) again).....

WHY - Because I left Domestic Violence, and spoke out about it but was not willing to take an ADVO against the father of my child because who wants to make an angry volcano explode on the helpless people below it - (and because some of us believe wounds can be healed and fixed (symptom of PTSD!) and want to be nice regardless of previous abuse)

IT IS OK FOR SOME PEOPLE TO COMMIT SEX CRIMES IN AUSTRALIA - Ask Commander Holohan of Coffs Harbour Police.

IT IS OK FOR THE NSW POLICE FORCE AND JIRT TO IGNORE CRIMES AGAINST WOMEN AND CHILDREN - ditto same agency

IT IS OK FOR DOCS TO DO WHAT "THEY" THINK IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF YOUR CHILD - even if they do NOT know you from a bar of soap (probably they dont know what soap is they are so DIRTY, FILTHY AND CORRUPTED

The man is telling his wife he cant look after the kids and the wife is rubbing her hands going we are IN THE MONEY, then she dumps the poor bloke after he did all the work with the kids....

Another story with so many similarities, so much ignorance in HUMAN SERVICES about everything that HUMAN SERVICES is meant to stand and work for....

What about the girl who has been assaulted? Who is helping her now or is she out homeless in the streets after shooting her VCT money up the wall?

My teen came home addicted to ICE and speed, my baby got taken because I complained to the NSW POLICE FORCE, DoCS and Mental Health about her being in DoCS care with my drug dealing family members, who were supplying her with drugs.

WHAT HAPPENED - I got called tangential and thrown in the friggin mental health ward repeatedly, by the coppers, strapped to a bed and jabbed with drugs that I still do NOT know what was in them....

AMAZING MENTAL HEALTH SYSTEM - NO DISCRIMINATION THERE -

What do you think?

Is it ok to admit to having (some life problems) mental health problems?

I THINK NOT - I THINK THAT IS CORRUPTION IN ITSELF - How much money goes into promoting "no discrimination policies" regards "health issues" - reality mental health issues are NOT seen as health issues and are then used by agencies like DoCS in the COURTS to take your kids off you..

? Is this DISCRIMINATION - No!!!!

WHY NOT??? - Cause they are DoCS and they do and say what they like and they live above any other laws in this country.

Bianca Stark's picture

I am Glenn and Kathie's daughter-in-law, and I know for a fact that my mother posted a comment with regards to this to you which has failed to appear. If you are really after the truth and not just some bulls**t lies to backup your beliefs then I am sure you will post it for her. Let's see if you are really after the truth, or if you are just a bulls**it dropkick playing lies.

Lukes Dad's picture

Please do not swear on this site, it is a memorial site for my deceased son. I encourage all interaction, and welcome you to the site. As you are posting anonymously, not only does this detract from the validity of your comments, your post must be authorised by myself, and this may take a few hours, I apologise.

As with any story, there are two sides. One could argue there are many sides to this story.

Let us wait, and see how many people have fallen victim to not only Kathie Parker, but the corruption which permeates through this office.

Thankkyou for posting on the site.

Help Fight Child Protection's picture

Jackie Leonard Brazel

Hi there Mick, it's max there mate as you can plainly see that not even the complaints unit is any bloody good, don't worry there Mick it is unbelievable what they can do all what they do for either you or me plus other patrons out there is just bloody take us around in f***ing bloody circles don't worry too much there mate as all that we can do is just press on and never ever bloody well loose hope there mate as you are a battler like the rest of us, and what i have done there for you there yesterday mick is just forwarded on your e-mails too Legal Aid, the ombudsman of nsw, my local member as well as our federal member here of lake macquarie as well as a Dr Frank Ainsworth of (FIN NSW ) or known as the family Inclusion Network of NSW, because at the moment there Mick right here in Lake Macquarie as well as Newcastle i am causing a very wild storm here at the moment and any other e-mail upon where i spot any corruption or conspiracy issues and if you do not here from me do not think that i am not doing nothing too help support the justification of thousands of families across Australia, as i am doing what i can for what i can do too strongly support you on all of these issues raised because i only read your e-mails first before anyone elses as i look very very hard and very deep into your resources and this is what a lot of these other people should be doing within there own electorates, by pushing these bastards too the Max and i do not will ever not give up, well by for now mick and stay very very strong and composed and believe you me we have got these bastards on the run, but bye for now Mick and take care.

Yours Truly,
Mr Maxwell Roy Brazel and Family
Lukes Dad's picture

My personal impression is that this man may have had sex with a 16 year old, no excuses of being drunk, he did it and admits it, and is the bigger man for doing so.

Now let's get down to the real nitty gritty. He does jail for this....

This man I take my hat off to. He saw child porn on a computer of a foster carer and went out of his way, to report it to DoCS corrupt managers, to make a statement. I don't see a statement from Kathie Palmer or any of the other DoCS skum. Yet he did time, and the the real pedeophiles are still in a postion to take child porn photos, or molest children.

This makes all of the docs workers, and anyone else who knew about this and failed to act pedeophiles in my book.

Easy to make character assasinations, but how do you go past this Kathie Palmer and family, not to mention The manager of Glen innes DoCS at the time, Connie, and assistant manager Tina Zart (now working Wyong DoCS), I say your an honest man Glen and a legend for helping to expose docs corruption.

Why have you allowed this to continue Kathie? You and your foul mouthed daughter with the bad attitude (are you trainging her to be a docs worker or is she one already) can not excuse the fact that these people are still foster carers.

Glen tried to stop this, but couldn't. How many other pedeophiles are you protecting Kathie, and you put the father of your children in jail for less, and robbed him as you did it.

You have been in a postiion to do somehting about it for a long time and refused to. This makes you a pedeophile in my books. A pedeophile who falsely portrays themselves as a government worker protecting children when really you sit at the bottom of the darkest, blackest cave, feeding upon the souls of children, with the skulls of babies as paper weight upon your desk.

It is not for me to judge, may God have mercy upon your soul.

Jackie's picture

I note that you have posted another remark around Kathie, however, you have failed to respond to my feedback provided at approx. 8.45pm.  If you truly represent a balanced argument, you will post my feedback.

I also wish to ask, were you privy to the case held against this individual - or are you just relying on the hearsay posted on your website?  Has it occurred to you that perhaps the charges were lessened?  As discussed previously, I have a lot of information that refutes your claims (including actual correspondence), however, I do not wish to post this because it affects a number of innocent individuals who have become entangled in this mess for the selfish gains of one person. 

I wish to inform you that I can keeping a personal record of your slander, & I am happy to provide this as evidence of defamation without a balance of evidence being provided by the aforenamed individual.  I would strongly encourage you to remove all slanderous remarks from your website effective immediately against Kathie, & offer a public apology as previously requested. 

I await to hear from prompt response to my request.

 

Thank you.

Jackie.

Lukes Dad's picture

Well excuse me! How does it feel to be dictated to? How about I go to your blessed comment, and change the words, twist it to suit my own distorted beliefs? You would hate that. Try losing your children because of it.

How dare you come here to my son's website who was murdered by these deceitful baby stealers and threaten me! Do you think I am about to give in over another legal threat?

Do you know what would happen if I went to jail over Jackie Parker's corruption? I know where she lives, and 70% of men in jail have been in your Jackie's care, foster care.

Here is an out of home care manager. I will send every victim of DoCS ex foster care person that I interview while I am in jail to her personal address for counselling. How about I tell them to look up the rest of her family too.

That is inside jail. God has blessed me as the person honored to step up, a nobody, and try to reform this system, and people know it, on the outside. You will only make me a hero, a political prisoner.

After this threat I am banning you from my son's site. Find a solicitor, and I will send alll the peole in jail I talk to who have been in foster care to their house for counselling too. 

Don't ever ever ever threaten me for trying to get the truth out and fix this corrupt system, goodbye, you are barred from this site. Jackie Palmer is free to contact me anytime, on or off the record, for a civil conversation.

Mumwhererya's picture

Im not Michael, just an innocent bystander but really???? hahaha

a balanced arguement for a DoCS worker - they would not know what that is!!!!!!

feel free to take me to court, DoCS made me insane.....

....and many many many many more like me......

This man is a father desperate for answers as to why his son was taken from him, for not being a suitable human being, according to the government of Australia, and those who work in these agencies like Kathie.........

If we are made to be accountable and face character assasination and severe treatment by others in our society surely we have the human right to say WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO US - IN OUR OPINION ABOUT OUR LIVES. Which is why the internet is a free place to talk about our society and it's values, atm.

Furthermore, if the GUILTY PARTIES were actually convicted in the courts and treated to the hospitality that the POLICE have shown many VICTIMS OF DoCS, and if MICHAEL KNEW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS SON - He might be able to find some type of solace, but none of US get that - is the point - the TRUTH IS OUT THERE.... it really is.....

and some of us come.....

IN GOOD FAITH - regardless of what your family situation is or what you think every person has a right to express their own truth and it is up to individuals to believe it OR NOT!!!

and sometimes the police and the courts don't act in the best interests of an individual, this really happens!

and sometimes a whole family can gang up on a person and remove children and feel good about it!

When someone goes to jail the whole point is they are paying and meant to be coming out having been "corrected" but they don't get any training or enough psychiatric help and really the jails are full of psych patients who should be in mental health facilities or very specialised drug and alcohol rehabs, this is a fact. When they come out they are totally branded in every area.

Now - I am the last person to condone peadophiles - which is really my point - I am sorry if you did not understand my post or whateva but the point is DoCS continue to destroy families, and Michael no matter what you or I or anyone think of him is heartbroken and looking for answers as to why DoCS do not have to answer to the police, to the courts, are above family court orders, can just come into a house or a school yard and steal your kid, why they do not help the family and just accuse and abuse mums and dads. He is not one sided - he portrays what is offered and edits posts at times if you have lost it on the other end, to the best of his talents.

If you are offended then that is your way of seeing what is written - like - people are not stupid, they get it.... as for slander that is what DoCS do which again is the point of this website exposing the slander and everything that has come with it....

I am sure that you realise INNOCENT INDIVIDUALS ARE DEFINITELY ENTANGLED IN ALL THESE MESSES AND ARE STILL IN DANGER - which is also the point of this site and all the CHILD REFORM SITES out there.....

This story is GOLD for us because so many of us have been abused by the system and the powers that be, it shows really how it all is, as does the ensuing "cat fight" and the mega responses, even got me going again, I will never shut up about it, neva..... nor will Michael and the rest of us with PTSD and they/you/whoeva can throw us in jail and we will talk about it there to JUST LIKE NELSON MANDELA and all the other great leaders who wish to expose CORRUPTION AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS......

So great to see people commenting on LukesArmy and not being scared to SPEAK OUT and exercise the very basic human right to do that when all your other rights have been taken away with your kids. Good that you are all happy to stick up for DoCS too, there is always a support network there for them, and often a whole family lerking in the background or up front in the foreground when kids are taken from their real mum and dad.

It's all about whos got the biggest ARMY and the firing squad that is lined up to shoot the messenger.

God help us - Slander - that's the best laugh I had in ages..... Personal record of slander, when I said that to the DoCS worker they sent the police to my house and told me they were going to put me in jail for being upset that they put my kids in jail.....ha ha ha....

All a DoCS worker cares about is their pay packet and their mortgage they even hand their jobs over to NGO'S the verified abusers from the past now to pass the buck for reports over to them as well. So what... you say, but there jobs depend on writing a report for DoCS that compliments DoCS view and opinions about the parents and this goes to court so that your kids are removed.

If a parent is not emotional when a child is lost or taken, I would suggest then the family has a serious problem,,,,,, it is normal to yell when the stress outweighs  the support... NORMAL and those who think different are the real abusers in society. This is the point.

DoCS are confused and working in a mob mentality and people are not stupid, and there are far too many of us to keep the people silent.

You are threatening a man who has lost a child to DoCS through the child being murdered in foster care, no less. Have you ever lost a child this way?

WE WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT LUKE, AUSTRALIANS HAVE THIS RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS LITTLE BOY.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE WHAT STRANGERS SAY ABOUT US AS PARENTS RECTIFIED, OUR ADULT CHILDREN WHO ARE STILL SCARED OF THE PERSON WHO ABUSED THEM NEED SOME CLOSURE, THEY SHOULD NEVER BE TOLD BY DoCS TO RING THAT PERSON TO SEE THEIR SISTER.

Kids belong with their own biological parents they are not born to feed the greed and corruption of government departments and conspiracies of dysfunctional families.

See you in court trying to convict a traumatised parent even more, or perhaps at the Inquest into Lukes death by DoCS. There really is an ARMY behind this little angel and his warrior of a father. He is not sailing this boat alone.

If Australians got to know what is really happening to children in this country, if the mainstream media would have the guts to expose this, they would not be very happy, considering the way the country is going, it would be like a final knife in the guts for the people to see what government workers actually do, while hard working people actually work. The class system in Australia needs to really come into scruitiny. How dare DoCS judge average people and look the other way for some........  

let him who is without guilt come forward........

seriously.

 

 

 

Lukes Dad's picture

Five stars for that one Mumwhererya, well said.

Help Fight Child Protection's picture

Hi Michael.... I realy wish I could post the evidence of corruption I have against Armidale DoCS, because I have literaly tones of HARD IRREFUTABLE Evidence... I presented that evidence to Court, to the Minister "Pru Goward".... to the complaints department, to the ombudsman, to members of both state and federal parliament... and the outcome of that evidence... DoCS sought to put a GAG order on me in Court...and the court accepted, so I am gagged from speaking out in detail on a public forum... and I am affraid that if I was to post all the evidence I have against Armidale DoCS , DoCS would be able to indentify me....even if I redacted names and dates, and while I am still trying to get my children back, I cannot take the risk of posting on the blog at lukes army.com.... however... I would love to be able to give my evidence to the ICAC, and the attorney General... because the corruption evidence I have is not only in regards to DoCS... I have evidence of the Armidale Court being involved in the same corruption and coverups as Armidale DoCS... if you could send me a private message.. I would be happy to talk to you and maybe obtain the contact details of the ICAC from you..... Thanks Michael.

Kath's picture

NIKE....

Just do it.....

This is how they do it......

By telling us to shut up......

But they get to say whateva they want......

Nice caring supportive people living in our communities.....

Knocking at our doors of our private homes where we live with our families.....

Without really wanting to give us any HUMAN SERVICE.......

Beware the wolf in sheeps clothing.......

Read some fairy tales like LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD who was just trying to look after GRANDMA.... when Grandma had already been eaten by the wolf.....

And know that those DEMONS from your childhood really exist and are living amongst us and pretending that they are the PROTECTORS OF THE LITTLE CHILDREN...... AND THE PEOPLE......

Read... De Bruders Grimme, it is real, and it is amongst us and condoned and not easily thwarted. It might even be your own real biological brother whom you should beware of ....

Really..... this is how they are getting away with it all and it is right through our SOCIETY and COMMUNITIES, to the point of using these words to describe their own organisations when really they are the CHILD STEALERS and FAMILY DESTROYERS and RUINING OUR COMMUNITIES.

Have a nice day!!!!

But...

JUST DO IT.....

They should put us all in jail then we can really get organised and create a REAL political movement against the corruption RIGHT THROUGH THE SYSTEMS....

Don't think for a second that there are NOT people who are in mental hospitals and jail (gaol) because of these issues, THERE ARE... and many of the agency workers, across the board would like nothing better than to see US put away so we all SHUT UP....

They do what they do then they MOVE ON to the next family, with no regard and no conscience or concern for the people who's lives they impact on. There is NO VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT because if you see yourself as a VICTIM they get to say that this is your mental disease in a court and the reason that they have taken your child.

I ask myself every day WHO IS THE ONE WHO IS "NOT NORMAL"? and while I know I am unwell these people do this (what they did to me) to people everyday and they do knowingly and happily. From my research I see who is the Narcissist and who has the personality disorders bla bla, me I have a reason for not having the ability to regulate my behaviour and I cant even have an opportunity to fix it or to offer the child they took any consolation, because THEY will not allow it or AID THE RETIFICATION of family unitys. All they do is break and say shut up or we will chuck you in prison....

"thats just the way it is.....somethings will never change"

 

 

 

Marney MacDonald's picture

Hi CSR, maybe you could contact me and we could have a chat.  Gag orders are not enforceable unless they conform to specific requirements - and to keep your mouth shut when they are acting corruptly is not one of them.

 

you can email me at director@alecomm.com if you wish to discuss in private your options about having this gag order terminated - because i am sure it is not there to protect your children or national security.

i am aware of other docs victims who they have slammed with gag orders - yet unless other people can work out who you are - that are not involved in the case - then you can go for your life. ---

where abouts are you in your case with getting your children back or are you already in the abyss because if you are then you might as well be heard because unless you are already in restoration i doubt you have much to lose.

marney :-) (0403) 328-321

Bianca Stark's picture

Thank you Michael for posting all sides. Kathie is truly a wonderful woman and is certainly not corrupted as made out in the allegations.

Child Safety Reform's picture

Wii Lde

Thank you ♥ You do not know how much you have helped us, even from so far away. How many days I thought I could not make it one more and I saw you pulling through, making it. You gave me strength and you gave My innocent Son a voice, you helped save My Son from them. ♥ Great actions, of yours, which promote and support true Justice and I will not soon forget.

I will always be able to say, My Son made it Home Safely thanks to the Help of Lukes Dad ♥

http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/steve-wilkos-letter-desperate-mother-return-son-foster-care

Lukes Dad's picture

Thankyou Wii, miss hearing from you.

Help Fight Child Protection's picture

Hi, I have 3 children currently in foster care (interim based orders) They were removed last yr due to my hubby may be a risk docs have now confirmed my hubby is not a risk to my kids yet are asking for orders til kids are 18 and it looks like we wont be getting a hearing for up to 6 months could be sooner but not sure anyway my hubby is ot the father of these three children nor is he classed as a risk to them or have any docs/cps files or risks against him..We are expecting our first child together in a few months and docs have put a birth alert out against me, i am just wondering if any one has had one of these against them and what has happened?? as i am not sure exactly what this is or what it means but if my hubby is no risk to my kids and they were only removed on the grounds he might be (thus saying i wasnt a risk to kids or they would of removed them for that reason) then it is suggested that baby is not at risk so why the need for an alert? i am just worried hat docs/cps will do once i have baby any ones advice whom has been in this situation would be apruciated thanks
madison cox's picture

wow after all the years i have had to be involed with docs QLD i knew this stuff happens as they took my eldest son and i got a copy of his docs files through foi and i have looked and looked and looked and can not find the paperwork where i signed him over to them that terrible day in november 1988 or 89 as it hurts me the image of the car driving away and him screaming mummy and scraching at the window as it was voluntery care i was putting him in for back then it was 3 months and they told me nothing as to what i had to do so i can get him back i ended up return to the family home with my mother (birth) and that was on the 1 st of the new year and on the 2 nd day of january i rang to tell them i was home with her and that i wanted my son home they draged it out until the 3 months went by then hit me with they r taking a life order out on him due to the fact i abandon him and his is not the truth now due to  this my life has turned out a lot harder as well as my sons so in the end they stole him from me and my family and have never been held responsable for these things and with having more sons i have had to fight and fight and fight when i did nothing wrong to him i never hit him i never not feed him and yet now in  my 40's this still eats me as i wounder how many other people have they done this too and they have had to hang there heads in same for nothing that they have done wrong dont get me wrong there is kids out there that do need to be protected from monster that call them selfs perants but u dont need to do it to people that do the right things by there children and to hear this form the ladies husband just makes me sick to the guts and makes me think and bring up the wrongs they have done to both me in care as well as my boys 

GOD BLESS U MICHAEL TO TAKE ON THE TASKS TO GET THESE DEVILS IN HUMAN FORM HELD ACOUNTABLE FOR THESE CRIMES THEY DO MY HAT GOES OFF TO U 

 

Lukes Dad's picture

After every visit, I would pretend everything was normal, say goodbye then and they would drive off with my little angel. I would drop to the ground, in the gutter and cry and cry and cry. Your story is too hard for me to read but I thankyou so much for posting it on the site my friend.

Jacqualine Wheeler's picture

DoCS has a current "case" against me......and they have been nothing but lapse in handling the matter. It has completely frustrated me to have to deal with these people. DoCS do not listen to their clients at a level you would expect "professionals" to listen, they hear what they want and use any indication of emotion you express as perhaps an indication you are emotionally/mentally unstable.

DoCS have treated me with indifference and made hollow attempts at "case" planning as they have no real case against me...except...I married the ex husband of a DoCS worker, who is now on the CPR and has cleaned up his act. This man was able to run around being the main carer of his children and foster children half drunk for years, chronically depressed with suicidal tendancies, while his wife (at the time) was busy off being a DoCS worker.

When finally a child IS harmed in his care and the light shines on the REAL situation all the coachroaches scurry for the nearest hole to hide in and he takes the full whack for all of it! And if thats not enough lets persue him for the rest of his life and scare any little children and there parents that ever come near his family now! Make him too afraid to say anything against DoCS if that is possible?!

The corruption in DoCS is well known by the general Australian community. The injustices that befall parents and children are irrecompensable. There are endless accounts of negligance by DoCS that has resulted in the harm of a child, children and entire families.

This story was only ever put out there because DoCS is failing their duty of care to children. THIS story is one individuals account of his dealings with DoCS and the haunting questions that still remain because of this DoCS experience.

It should also be noted that Kathie Parkers youngest daughter has decided to Facebook bully my daughter tonight  because of this story. This is being done from Kathie Parkers house in Armidale. So there you go DoCS and anyone they have onside is apparently justified in doing things that DoCS would be knocking on my door about and questioning my ability as a Mother.

Oh well the truth will win in the end <3

Peace 

Norelle Thornton's picture

Yes DoCS do get it wrong sometimes, but have any of you considered how many times they get it right. How many of the people complaining that DoCS took my babies can't take care of them selves let alone children. How many are drug addicts, alcoholics and gambling addicts that would rather spend their money on their habits rather than on their children. How many don't know what the inside of a supermarket looks like and are too lazy to cook a meal or do a bit of house work. How many hit their children resulting in bruises, broken bones and death.

So yes DoCS do sometimes get it wrong but I bet they get it right more often than wrong.

Lukes Dad's picture

So who thinks they get it right most of the time, DoCS. In their own twisted minds they think they are Gods gift to children, which couldn't be further from the truth.

They say they act in the best interest of the child, but how is telling lies about their parents, and running their parents down good for a child.

Why don't we ask the people who deal with them instead, parents, grand parents, foster carers and the children? You don't get many that say DoCS helped them, hence the need for this site. To get the truth out there.

Bianca Stark's picture

I agree; I have seen from experience that most of the time DoCS get it right and the children are alot happier and better off. Just because people are able to reproduce doesn't mean they should be parents. Some of them cannot even look after themselves let alone children. BUT yes, sometimes, they get it wrong (and I am so so sorry about your son; I couldnt imagine losing my daughter) But witchhunting one woman for mistakes made by a Government body and not her personally is deploreable and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Lukes Dad's picture

These people wait beside hospital beds to steal babies. I am not ashamed to be screaming as loud as I can about these evil banshees.

Almighty Jac's picture

Went to DOCS Glen Innes office and "Glenn Armstrong" (main carer) INSITSED that "the young person" be REMOVED from current residence....of interest..acting "manager" Kathie Parker" WAS present!! during ALL these interviews! Yep....it.... Kathie Parker was the "wife" at the time during this time and interviews of concern....look it up...GIPA!!!! Case worker was Louise Pearson...she said "we have no where else to put her, but what we can do is, reclassify her as, a young person with "special needs" and increase "your" allowance (???!!!???!!!) 

Dad Against DoCS's picture

WOW. EXCUSE ME. Do you have any idea what you are on about? Kids are LEFT With their parents who shoot up in front of them. Their Kids wag school and eat from Garbage bins. DoCS don't do anything At ALL. I know because their are 3 such families living up the road from me. In fact since the police are their atleast 2 times a week on either a raid or a Domestic issue one would THINK that these kids would of been removed but NO

 

 

 

My Story 
 
It All Started approx 4 years ago.... in  2008.... BUT a Threat was made 3 days after My Baby boy was born ( Back in 2006 ), the highest point in my life happened....
 
Well To Start off a brief glossary of My Realationship with my fiance, Love of my life and Mother of my 3 beautiful PERFECT while imperfect kids
 
We started dating when She was 16 and I was 18. We met when I was 17 and she was 15, And we have now been together for Almost 10 years. She is hard to describe in words but I think Social Butterfly is the closest you can come to without getting to know her... She is a Happy, Radiant person who just makes you smile even when she upsets you... We have had our ups and downs like I think Most couples.... She was not well when we started dating, As she had Anorexia and Bulemia from involuntary starvation just after she turned 16 but I Won't get into that here... I was Subjected to DoCS Mal-treatment when I was a younger teen and Was sent to foster homes..... The first Foster home was with a single mother.... When I was dropped off I could not see the floor for the garbage and food piled on it. I Made money when I was younger and as All this faoster carer fed her Own kids was sandwhiches I Would buy myself some pies or Pizza or chips after school as I had no love of a Sandwhich only diet as at Home Since my Mother was a So So cook I Took over a large portion of the cooking as I LOVED it and took numerous cooking and hospitality courses in High school.... When The foster Parent And I Do use the term " Parent " Very loosely, Demanded I eat Vegemite sandwiches with her kids and I'd refuse on the grounds I was already full from food I bought with money I earnt she would yell and scream at me that it was not right to buy myself food without  buying her and her kids the same food. To which I would reply They were not my responsibility... She would get verbally aggressive and make threats towards me about me going home ( I will add at this point I was removed from my home because my younger brother and I Were Hostile towards each other and I Will get into that shortly )After 2 weeks of this I just walked out. Packed my school bag with my home work and school work, Clothes, Grabbed my fishing gear and walked out
 
At this point I was returned Home By DoCS, for some weeks to maybe a month or 2. I was then placed in another foster care home. I Actually liked it there. And to this day I Still speak when I can to that foster parent. Whilst I was Living with this foster parent cause I was too far away from the gold course I used to collect gold balls out of, clean up and sell on weekends to the players I sought out a job at the driving range on the next street. I Was told That he had no work for me So I asked if I just collected golf balls out of the drain that ran along side the driving range as long as I returned them to him.. I was told I could. After the first day He hired me And I was making about $10-$20 a day which I saved. After I had a couple of hundred $ saved up DoCS informed the carer that I was a " Flight risk " and ordered her to take my money away, Mind you for years I had been saving All my money and spending it on fishing gear which is still my one free passion... When I returned home from school and after " Work " Went to place my day's wages in my money tin it was gone. I confronted the Carer and she told me she was told to take my money away as I was a flight risk. I walked out the door. Left my clothes, Grabbed my fishing gear, Jumped on my bike and took off.... Police found me at Approx 0200 fishing / sleeping At a Local reserve. End of DoCS foster homes for me
 
As I previously mentioned My Brother and I were Hostile towards each other... Here is My Explanation
 
My Parents divorced when I was in year 4 I think, My Younger brother in year 3... Maybe I was in year 5 and he was in year 4 But A Lot of my Past is groggy from a DoCS Issue. As Such She moved us from Sydney ( Moving was not new to us as we moved Every year when I was a Kid sometimes 2 times a year ) To Dorrigo where her mother lived. Suddenly I was thrown into male role model role when I was not ready for it Nor did I have the capacity to fulfill it and I resented my brother for forcing it on me, My Mother for ordering me to take my brother with me when I went door to door selling knick knacks I'd Make and sell for pocket money....
After a while I realised that when my younger brother got aggressive and abusive and out of control a " Kick up the backside " Would pull him in line usually.... But for my mother he was still out of control.... a year later we moved to Sawtell
 
 
ENTER DoCS
 
Life was OK before DoCS involvement... It was far from great buy managable...I Would Alternate between fishing, Bodyboarding and collecting gold balls to sell during the week. Saturday I'd sell the gold balls and Sunday I'd go into Coffs to Fish and relax ( After school work had been done ) Now DoCS Is on the scene. My Brother had since I was staying out most nights to 2100 or later and on weekends till 0200 or even over night fishing trips had gone to use the term " Insane " He had started bashing the neighbourhood girls and the boys as well to stealing things with the neighbourhood boys to out right attacks on people. I Will admit here when I heard of him ( being 12 at the time ) Beating up on an 8 year old girl and leaving her in bruises I Would give him a taste of what he had dished out and that would be the end of it for a couple of weeks.... then I'd be fishing every night and he'd get egged on by his " Mates "
After I found out it was his friends egging him on I put my foot down. My Mother was not exactly able to do anything and At times I think she really didn't care as she is one of those people who are obsessed with how you look rather than how you are... DoCS came in swinging... I was forced to stay home in the afternoons instead of going fishing / Bodyboarding / collecting golfballs. When My Brother bashed a kid from the area or stole he was taken for " Time out / Cooldown time " as it was called where he was taken to a movie by the DoCS worker... After many weeks of me asking why he was being rewarded for breaking the rules and Actually breaking laws it was still going on
 
Then 1 Night I had a friend stay over on the friday... My Mother went to the club as per usual... So it was myself, My friend and My brother.... Now I Will say my friend did not like my brother... And as such he did goad my brother into a reaction and in all fairness I Could have done more to stop him from gaoding him into a reaction... But as I previously said I was resentful. My brother Actually picked up a meat cleaver and my nice new butcher knife from the kitchen and chased us around the house with them. I managed to get my mate into my room while my brother chased me around and then I went to my room and slammed the door shut just as my brother swung the knives at me. As Soon as those knives hit my door I opened and Hit him HARD in the face... Probably not the right reaction but he dropped the knives and ran to his room
 
My Removal from home
 
 
That ends the brief over view of my history with DoCS Until
 
 
The day My Son was born....
 
We were living in North QLD, On Hayman Island
We found out we were going to be parents... I Will say I HAD Planned on being married with a fulltime job and at the very least a mortgage before having kids ( I predicted and hoped for 27-29 ) But alas good things usually come at un expected times :) And When I say unexpected I mean unexpected. My Fiance had a rather bad reaction to Implanon ( The Implant, The Bar, A Birth control method where a Metal tube I believe is inserted in the arm and it releases over 2-3 years birth control, Kind of the same as the Needle but a longer term affect ) And she was removed from it after 6 months. We Were told she could not start birth control until her first cycle... But that never happened... We were told because of the complications with the Implant her cycle could take several months to start up again.... LOL..... How wrong were we all
 
After 3 months My Fiance Was starting to eat more but not put on weight, She was fatigued and her sleeping pattern was changing. So I took her to mainland under the pretence of a shopping trip and suggest " As a Joke " a Pregnancy test at our GP. As Her being pregnant scared her because we were well over 2000 km's from either her's or my nearest relative. It came back positive ^_^ She was scared... But mostly of telling her mum that she was pregnant at 18. She had initial fears That I think every young mum has, but as the pregnancy wore on and she saw the ultrasound of our Son she changed so much. It changed from something she was scared of to She literally GLOWED with happiness.
 
The day before My Son was Born
 
My Fiance had a routine appointment at the Coffs Harbour Office ( We had moved from North QLD to ease her fear of lack of support due to distance to be closer to her family ) And We had concerns over her loosing a LOT a fluid during the 3 hours leading up to it.. When we had the appointment They Dr who she was seeing would not administer a test to see if it was amniotic fluid and flat out refused to have another Dr check.. As she was busy training a student DR on how to determine the position of the Baby and so on.... SO we go home... BUT by the time we got home after the 30 min drive back she had lost over 2 ltrs and we turned around and I FORCED them to administer the tests. Her waters had broken.
 
1900 that night
 
Visiting hours in the maternity ward to which she was now admitted were over. LUCKILY we had packed everything from clothes to snacks to baby goods to maternity products and Had them with us. My Fiance asked if I could stay cause she was scared / worried I wouldn't be there with her when the time come... The Mid wife said they can do an internal exam to see if she is dilated enough to warrant me staying. They put the call through to the Male Gynocologist and OBGYN. At Which Point my Fiance asked if a Female Dr or Mid wife could perform the check. We were told it would be ok and the called the DR back and said My Fiance wanted a Female to perform the check
 
Midwife comes back saying DR says it is too late to perform a check so it isn't going to be done.
 
My Mother came down from where she was staying so she could be close by when Her grandchild was brought into this world. After about an hour of her promising she was taking me somewhere close enough that I could get back in a hurry I spoke to My fiance and told her I'd be back as soon as I was called and not to fret... She was initially concerned about me staying outside the Hospitals Maternity ward on a bench but as she found out I was going 15 mins away she did get a bit woried.
 
I Settled her down, Promised her I'd be back before anything happened and waited for her to go back into the Maternity ward ( The Coffs Hospital Does have a Mental health unit there and some patients have been known to escape )
 
0300 the next morning
 
I get a call that My Fiance ( Really sorry about referring to her like this but I am not sure I want to mention names ) has gone into full Labour. I get to the hospital and get into the delivery room after being told at Maternity that she is crying for me... Anyways 14 mins after the phone call I Witnessed my Son brought into this world. And a More joyess occasion and Life altering I had never expirenced
 
3 Days later
 
Hopsital Head Mid Wife ( One of them ) Refuses to Allow us to go home with our son
 
5 days later Same story
 
7 days later Same still
 
14 days Later I DEMAND an explanation
 
Am Informed that My Fiance and I are not fit to be parents by head Mid wife because We were Happy, Excited, Looking forward to being parents, Eager to Welcome our Son Into this world and we were not taking it seriously. Not like they complained about the suitcase of clothes for my fiance, or the suitcase of baby clothes for my son, or the back pack with maternity products ranging from 3 different sized cip Maternity bra's to maternity pads and breast pads, wool cream, Nappies, Baby powder.... Basically everything you need for a new born ( As I said we were Highly excited about our Son )
Am Also informed that DoCS has said we are not allowed to go home because they are currently seeking proceedings to take our brand new Boy away from us. My Fiance bursts into tears. I calm her down and assure her I'll get to the bottom of this as I had heard stress could cause issues with milk production and as she was going to be breast feeding as it is better for our child it was imperative to me to keep her happy and calm.
 
 
I Stormed out of the Hospital and called DoCS right away
Seems the Mid wife spoke to soon as I had got in before the complaint had finished being lodged and DoCS assured me that they had nothing to do with it
 
I Stormed up to Hospital Management and Made a formal complaint and threatened legal action based on discimination
 
I Spoke to the evening shift head Mid Wife, She cleared my Baby boy to come home after 2 weeks of hell from the staff and a brief DoCS issue. 2 weeks later a formal Apology from the hospital arrived in the mail
 
 
Now back to 2008
 
I am 3/4's deaf now in both ears. Why I will eventually get around to the tests Needed to find that out and to to determine if it can be fixed but for now that isn't important.
In 2009 We were ( Still are ) Living in Grafton. Because I do have hearing issues and could not hear the front door if someone knocks on it from the lounge room or the kitchen I Had moved the PC I bought into the front / entrance room to the unit we were living in So as If the mail man or anyone came to the door I would be able to hear them.
 
My Fiance was at Tafe 3 days a week I think, 2 of my 3 kids were in day care. It was the one day a week where My fiance was at Tafe and due to the Day care my 2 eldest went to not having All the days available that she went to Tafe I had All the kids home with me that day.
 
DoCS turn up at about 1700ish
 
Someone had called them and said we had left the kids at home alone.
 
I Told them flat out " You have to be joking. I am here All day long, The only time I leave the front room is to change nappies, Make lunch or snacks or to get more toys / put them away OR if I have to go to the bathroom. I Actually had neighbours who I'd chatted to not long before The complaint was called in as I was hanging washing outside while All 3 were down for naps. So I can only guess Someone came to the door when I went to the bathroom.
DoCS leave but not for long
 
2009
 
We had to move... So My Mother took All 3 of the kids over the weekend so My fiance and I could finish the last of the packing and clean the house as we had moved just about everything except cleaning products and a few pots / pans / plates which we would need over the weekend to finish the cleaning and eat.
 
ON the monday morning
 
My Mother returned in a BAD mood. She had had a bad weekend with her husband and his friends who Have a child with a mental issue which tends to make her violent without her even realising it. I did not know They would be there or I would never have allowed my kids to go out there in the first place.... Anyways
She is in a foul mood. As she pulls up my son jumps out of the car as she is backing up. She almost runs him over. I have a Good go at her for 
1. Having him in the front seat
2. Allowing him to open the door before the car stopped
3. For Not WATCHING him after we warned her he is advanced for his age
 
Understandably she is already in a bad mood and that " Attack " on her I guess was the straw that broke the camels back. She starts yelling at my Fiance and I, Accusing us of going out and drinking All weekend and using drugs and partying instead of cleaning because when she arrived While my Fiance loaded the cleaning products into the car I was hosing off the outside of the house to finish up. After those accusations I went off at her and So did my Fiance. We had been cleaning for 2 days from 0600 till 2300 and were tired.
 
My Mother lashed out. She knew violence Had no affect on me as I was beaten At home ( NOT really beaten... I was smacked... a LOT... But in All fairness I did get into a lot of trouble ) And at High School I was Bullied and beaten by other kids. Although I never fought back as that would of got me grounded or suspended I took a LOT of beatings so they didn't phase me.... So she lashed out at My Fiance.  I Got involved and after stepping between them and my mother trying to go around me to keep Attacking my fiance and trying to jump over me to keep attacking her I had enough. I grabbed her wrists and HELD her down while My fiance removed All our stuff from the car while we waited for the police to arrive.
 
After 20 mins with still no police I told My Fiance to go inside. Once behind a Locked door I released my mothers wrists and told her to " Eff Off and never come back, And we will be seeking to have her charged with Assault and have an AVO placed on her "
 
My Mother went straight from our house to the police station at which time the Police turned up
 
We are told My Fiance's Face being Black with bruises, Throat being swollen and bruises, Missing hair and having bruises All up and down her arms and upper chest was not good enough as proof of an Assault.... And that My Mother had just been into the office crying cause " I had attacked her and told her she would never see her grandbabies again " I Will state here My Mother did have bruises around her wrists. Police say they will not charge her with assault and will not place and AVO on her and I Was lucky not to be charged with assault and Unlawfully detaining someone. 
 
Later that day
 
We finally get to our new house. Have been in the house for 20 minutes when 2 DoCS workers turn up. The Police had called them because of a domestic disturbance where Kids were present.
 
The 2 DoCS workers Start Telling us we are BAD Parents cause of All the boxes and bags of stuff around the house. We stated we just moved and had literally been in the house for 20 mins and were in the middle of doing dinner before putting the kids to bed and starting unpacking.
 
Not good enough. We are bad parents because as we moved stuff from one house to the next we didn't unpack it. Mind you we only had access to a truck to move everything for one hour on the friday.
 
I tell them to take a hike and things don't magically unpack when you walk out the door to get the next lot of items to come over to the new house.
DoCS leave after verifying ( Via Our new Tenancy agreement ) That we had Just moved in, Not like the Police didn't inform them!
 
A Couple of weeks to maybe months later
 
Someone starts using DoCS to Harrass us. Everything from using drugs infront of the kids, To Refusing them medical treatment ( My Eldest Daughter had a sniffle ), To not feeding them, to beating them, to no clothes, to no beds, to garbage all over the house,  the list went on and on.... All told I think there were maybe 10-20 Unfounded, blatant lies made about us for what ever reason I don't know... BUT these lies were made within the course of a month. With one week we had 4 visits from these 2 DoCS workers. NOW they knew from their visit the day before or 2 days before that the Reports were unfounded. Yet they came out anyway to Harass us.
 
The Male DoCS worker would sit there and Have a go at my Fiance and I because we had our Shoes is an Empty NAPPY Box and not on a shoe rack. THAT was their only concern at the time. And how they felt Justified in coming back every time a complaint was made as we were such bad parents cause we had our shoes in an empty nappy box instead of on a shoe rack.
 
The End Of their Visits in 2009
 
They ( The 2 DoCS Workers ) Had made an Appointment with us. We organised it with them at our home as it was a follow up check up to see if we had removed the nappy box as use as  Shoe storage. We had organised the appointment for approx 2 hours before My Fiance had a Job Interview across town. When the 2 DoCS officers never showed I Suggested to My Fiance to go an hour early and try and get in early so if they do try and time their arrival for when she would be out of the house we could catch them off guard and she would be here.
 
My Fiance got into her appointment early and was 10 minutes from home when The Male DoCS worker turned up with 2 Police officers
I Asked them to wait about 5 minutes as My Fiance was on her way home and should be here shortly as she had originally requested the time for the appointment as she had questions she would like to ask.
 
Male DoCS Officers Said " NO. I have to cite the children NOW " 
 
So I said 1 sec. Went and got my kids from playing and brought them to the door.
 
Was Ordered to Open the Door NOW.
 
Asked my kids to please go play in my daughters room as it is farest from the door and had a proper door ( Not a Sliding one ) On it 
 
 I State In a few minutes when My Fiance gets home.
 
DoCS officer tells me if I do not open door he will Authorize Police To Kick down my door and use any means necessary to remove me from the premises if I do not comply.
 
I State that is illegal without a warrant and I had already said I will as soon as My Fiance gets home
 
DoCS Officers Tells Police to Kick down my door, At which point my kids had come out of their room because of the raised voices and one of the officers unlatched his gun and had his hand on it.
 
I Quickly opened the door. I Did NOT want my kids seeing a gun drawn on their dad, Nor would I of backed down as as soon as someone pulls a weapon on me it tends to get me very agressive. And I did not want my kids to see the result of Gun + Agro Daddy.
 
2 Minutes after I opened the door in Walks My Fiance. She was NOT Happy.... And even less happy after hearing what had already Happened
 
As Soon as DoCS and Police leave we Launch Offical complaints about both the Police and the DoCS worker.
 
No DoCS Visits for the next few years
 
 
But then again no actual punishment for those involved either
 
 
Onto NOW
 
Approx 9 weeks ago
 
My Daughter is in Kindy, My Son in year 1, My Youngest has just started her pre kindy classes 
 
Both our kids were coming home from school with HIGH Amounts of bruises. My Partner did not want me speaking to the school cause I am Blunt in what I say. I do not beat around the bush nor do I take being pushed around very lightly, Especially now that I have kids as I do NOT want them thinking that is the usual thing nor do I want them to accept it if it happens to them. So as Such I Abided her wishes... I let her speak to the school... She made many complaints to both kids teachers.... And By the end of It I told her to end the Bullying our kids were happening at School Or I'd speak with the teachers and Principal.
 
She threatened the School With Legal Action on the Thursday Afternoon if our Kids kept coming home with such a high amount of bruises ( They are kids. I EXPECT them to get some bruises )
 
Friday. No new Bruises. Happy the School is finally doing something
 
Saturday Morning During or Just after Breakfast
 
DoCS Arrives. The Female Officer from the visits in 2009 along with an elderly female officer. SOMEONE called DoCS At 1600 on Friday afternoon claiming we were beating our kids senseless
 
They check the kids over. State they have a LOT of " Light bruising " We explain about the bullying at School. DoCS workers Say " So Says You "
They then procede to check the house. ( I Will go off track here for a moment to explain The previous 2 weeks )
 
2 weeks prior our Washing Machine Died. $400 for repais and 2-5 weeks wait on parts and Labor... Or buy a new washing machine for $450-$500. Luckily for us this happened Just before Tax time so we used the FTB rebate to get the washing machine AND a Dryer. Which we bought on the Wednesday and was delivered on the Friday at Approx 1300. From 1300 on Friday to about 0200 Saturday we were washing as for 2 weeks we could only hand wash and the washing had backed up a bit.... And on top of that when the Guys who delivered the new washer and dryer took our old washing machine to the Garage My Fiance noticed that bags of clothes we had stored in the garage had somehow became wet. And she brought them up to sort through them and wash and dry what could be salvaged and throw out the rest. Now back to story
 
 
The DoCS Officers noted that washing was piled up. We explained that the washing machine broke 2 weeks ago and we only had the new one delivered yesterday ( The day before )
 
DoCS Workers Say " So Says You "
At which point we ask if they want to see the receipt with the delivery date on it. They say NO
 
DoCS Workers then move onto the rest of the house. Claiming it is filthy, Dishes piled up. Garbage All over the house ( We had the clothes from the garage in Garbage bags ) We pointed out that the bags were CLOTHES
 
" So Says YOU "
We tear 2 open and prove they are clothes. They are not interested
 
They then claim the dishes Were piled up and had not been done in weeks. At which point I LAUGH And tell them we have 3 Dinner Platers, 2 Mugs and 3 Drinking glasses. They get washed multiple times a day.
 
So Says YOU
 
They move onto the bathroom. The Toilet had a film on it. It is " Filthy " I tell them flat out 30 seconds with bleach without scrubbing will get that off as it is mostly coffee stain ( from tipping cold coffee down the toilet ) And The lower bowel under the water line has a permanent stain that I have never been able to get out which was there when we moved in.
 
 
So Says YOU
 
Apart from that the floors needed to be vacumed, The windows in Winter where the temperature reaches 1 Degree at times had condensation on them and we should have them open At All times for " Ventilation "  
 
I tell them that is NOT good enough. I Point out the washing machine had broke down and we only just got a new one the day prior, I Point out that it is Winter And having my Windows open in the area we live in is not just a health risk from extreme cold but also a crime risk. I Point out hard to have dishes pile up when you only have enough for 1 meals use FOR the express purpose of ensuring they get washed before OR after every meal.
 
BUT According to these DoCS workers a family one Centrelink ( Believe me I WISH I could get a Job ) Does not have that kind of Cash on hand when we have bills to pay, clothes to buy, Treats for the kids when they get another award at School and they have behaved at Home. Treats as in a $2 toy from the reject shop / Sams Warehouse And either a McDonalds Dinner, KFC ( Which I really don't like as it is HIGHLY expensive ) Or Pizza.
 
BUT Not having $400 on hand for washing machine repairs is not good enough. Not Allowed to Budget or Lay Buy NO. Have to have the cash on Hand.
 
I tell them THAT is a Joke. $400 is what I get a fortnight ( I Actually get $430ish As My partner gets the FTB ) And with $240 a week on rent, Paying bills which piled up when my Fiance tried to do the finance for a year and managing to buy clothes for the kids, For My Fiance, Treats for my kids, At the end of the week After everything is said and done there is nothing to save. After we have paid bills and bought food everything else either goes on bills ( Including Christmas Lay buys as we do The Christmas shopping during the Mid Year Lay Buy till Christmas AT Big W T Help ease the financial stress )And For the time I do NOT have the Ability to save any money. This time next year We will be appox $100 a week better. BUT at the moment I can not afford to save.
 
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
 
End of DoCS Inital Visit. The Allegation of Us beating out kids proven unfounded but they " Found some other issues while here "
 
4 days later
 
DoCS Return for follow up visit.
 
Washing All gone as we do not like to let it pile up at ALL as with 3 kids anything piling up is a BAD idea
Toilet Sparkeling except the one stain ( 30 seconds with bleach )
Floors vacumed
Since the did not come right after a meal dishes were done
I refused to open the windows as in the middle of the day it was still freezing to the point where the kids did not want to take their jumpers off or their track pants off and as soon as they got home they grabbed their blankets and snuggled down to watch a movie with Daddy ( Pokemon, Power Rangers and the likes )
 
 
Still Not good enough. DoCS Officers Adiment we are misusing our Finances as we don't have Several Thousand Dollars on Hand ( As I notified them I WAS Concerned with 1 of their beds But had to get the car registered first otherwise it would be hell doing the shopping, getting them to school, and being able to get them to the hospital IF they needed to go ) I EXPLAINED to them that I can not simply buy one of them a new bed and not the other 2 as they will get Jealous and likely try and destroy it So I have to LAY BUY 3 beds. I Will concede right here that my daughters ARE sharing a bed as they destroyed one about 2 months ago by jumping on it and folding it in half. And As Such I have to Budget really carefully so that I can pay the Required $100-150 a week so as to get the beds ( We got 3 Beds, The cheapest Actual beds they were able to get, $400 each, Which were reduced to $349 each. ON top of that I have with the same lay Buy 3 Mattress Protectors that IF they fail to prevent any water / urine getting onto the beds the company who makes them will pay for a dry cleaner to come and clean the beds. Grand Total $1451
 
I Don't know about anyone else but I don't have that kind of cash on hand. Anytime we have even a few Dollars spare it goes on the kids. 
 
We rarely drink. Maybe 6 times a year. At Tax time I DID buy 1 Carton of beer.... It lasted 10 days. We smoke Tobacco but not around the kids unless we are outside. We don't beat out kids but we DO Discipline them when they require it... We MOSTLY try and encourage them to make the right decisions And if they make the wrong one give them the chance to realise it before correcting them. We DO Allow our kids their " Sibling Rivalry " To Which DoCS has stated that they are too young to have Sibling Rivalry and we are neglecting them if we allow them to Wrestle and work it out. IF they do get violent ( As in more than wrestling and they hit or kick ) We pull them up and send them off to their rooms. BUT THAT is neglect because we Allow them to wrestle in the first place. Yes they do get Some SOME bruises from each other And yes they can be very rough with each other.
 
BUT To Date Not 1 Single broken bone, Not 1 chirped tooth, Not 1 injury to warrant a Hospital visit. Their have been 2 illnesses though.
 
When My Youngest was 2 months old ( She was 5 weeks premi ) Her Older Brother and sister were in day care. They came home with what we though was a cold / flu.
Little did we know how wrong we were. During the night our Youngest was sniffling, Buy 0300 she was coughing, by 0600 she was wheezing and by 0900 she looked like she was having difficulty breathing. We took her to Hospital right away. She had contracted RSV. Or Respiratory syncytial virus. The DR AT the Hospital did not treat her With the exception of putting her on Oxygen. For 1 week she lay there crashing ( SPo2 Levels dropping to under 45% ) and they would do nothing no matter how much we pleaded and begged. My Fiance went to the hospital with her as I had to stay with our Older 2. THAT was the hardest week in my life.... When My Daughter Lay dieing and no one would help
 
After 1 week I Called the hospital after the DR once again refusing to perform any tests or provide any treatment and subtly hinted at Malpractice.
1 Hour later they had done Xrays on my Daughter, She had 2 Collapsed Lungs, and was drowning in fluid from both All the oxygen they had her on and another virus she picked up while in hospital. They called for a child care flight immediately. Now for the worst 4 hours of my life.
 
 We did not kn ow if they were sending her to Mater Childrens Hospital Or to Westmead. Although Westmead was closer to my Fiance's Family I had had bad expirences there and we had head a lot about improper sterilisation on surgical equipment and such so we were hoping we could go to Mater. Until the child flight arrived and she was loaded on the plane we did not find out where she was going. My Fiance went with her. I called My Mother ( Before she attacked my Fiance ) And begged her to come in ASAP so I could take clothes for My fiance and my Daughter up to the hospital as well as toiletries and baby needs. I then Had to beg her to take my oldest 2 kids while I caught a train to Where ever ( At the time I did not know if I was going North or South ) And Although I knew I should of been with My Oldest 2 kids I could not be parted any longer from my little girl when I thought she was going to die. I got lucky in that the train to Brisbane left 15 minutes after I got back from the hospital after dropping off clothes for my Fiance and Things they'd need before I Arrived At the hospital. Longest train ride in history and worst. Phone kept dropping out, Battery Was nearly dead. Had to communicate with My Fiance via SMS in case my phone died, No idea where Mater was, My Fiance unwilling to leave her side unless Our daughter was under going tests and she had to leave the room...
 
She got better. The Drs from the child care flight Gave her what the Dr at the hospital should of done from the start. 1 Single dose of Anabolic Steroid had her well enough to survive the flight. And I say well enough because she was literally Almost dead. We had to hope that she'd be able to handle the flight or I was going to loose my daughter hundreds of km's away and my Fiance wouldn't have someone there for support and THIS IS OUR DAUGHTER. Almost Killed by an EXPERT Used By DoCS in their cases till his qualifications were questioned on the stand. But that was before we knew he was not fully qualified as to which I am under taking that with the hospital. No I Don't want money. I Want His Licence. I want to stop him from doing to My Little girl and my family to another family. But once again another story
 
After that single Anabolic Steroid shot she improved dramatically. 24 hours later she opened her eyes for the first time in a week. 72 hours later she fed from a bottle. 1 week later she was discharged and was well again. 2 weeks after we admitted our girl to Hospital she was well. Mater Children's and Child Care flight Saved My Daughters Life And I can not express even to this day what that means to me.
 
The 2nd time one of our kids had an Illness, Our Boy had a high fever. And he wasn't keeping any food down. They gave us some medication for him and told us to buy some electrolyte drink for him and said he was ok to go home IF we could monitor him over night ( Temperature and if he keeps the fluids down as well as some food ) We said no problem as I have insomnia and have difficulty sleeping at the best of times I just read in his room by candle light All night till My Fiance got up and while she was giving everyone breaky I Stole an hours sleep. End Of that
 
 
 
Back top DoCS Now. Everytime one thing goes from their list of concerns Another comes up.... From My youngest's Side effect from the RSV Being a slight heart Murmur And her eyes being slightly un aligned, Us Medically Neglecting our Daughter as we are not seeking Medical treatment for something that is not medically treatable and we can only monitor, To lack of Supervision cause the kids wrestle, to us not playing outside in winter when it is freezing cold and toes are turning blue, to not opening the house up for same reasons, To Us Smacking our kids when they go to far, to The schools complaints about our kids behaviour, too which I have spoken to them and Our kids are model students in the class room, BUT when they have absolutely no supervision they misbehave! And My Oldest Daughter instead of sitting with class mates Prefers to play on the computer as she does not like the games they play. BUt According to DoCS My Kids are out of control, Lack Boundries, Are Misbehaving in class, Are diruptive, Lack Social Skills etc etc etc.
 
Was informed at an interview that DoCS is never going away so we might as well bend over and take it otherwise they will start legal proceedings to take our kids away. I WILL NOT Be blackmailed into having someone else care for my child. Because THAT is their whole " Safe Plan " In home Child care, Which I Had when I was a Young Teen and have explained why I am against here and to them, Vacation Care for My Oldest 2, Which I am Against as Neither I Nor their mother work due to lack of jobs in the area, Therefore There is NO Reason for it especially as I think They are now old enough to behave well enough to go fishing and be trusted to be careful and I feel they will REALLY enjoy it as they have seen some fishing shows and LOVE the idea of fishing so am REALLY hoping that my life long passion has passed onto them so I can go fishing every weekend if we can afford it. Next Part of Safe plan Is Pre School for my youngest, Which we have Explained NUMEROUS times as parents send their kids to pre school with the flu and likes as her immune system is weak and will be weak until she is 5-7 years old even a simply flu  can land her in hospital. At Mater the Specialist informed us to expect her to develop Pneumonia multiple times until she is about 6 as with her weakened immune system any virus she gets will likely get much worse and require hospitalisation. Since she was Discharged from Mater Childrens Hospital she has been Sick 5 times. 3 Times she had a fever ( Very slight Which me monitored every 20 minutes and gave her childrens panadol for every 6 hours as well as increased her liquid intake and switched her to custards and pureed fruit and vege for to make it easier on her digestion ) and 2 times where she just simply threw up with no fever and her not feeling sick.... WHICH we attribute to her over eating Which she does do occasionally.
 
Now this DoCS Worker has Accused us as being the reasons for her Contracting RSV, The Reason why she Almost Died And had to be Flown to Mater Childrens Hospital, Accused us of Medically Neglecting Our Precious Daughter Because we Monitor her heart Murmur ( Pulling her up when she is running around if she starts looking very tired, puffed out or dehydrated ) And get her to rest or have a Nap.
 
They have tried to Bully and threaten us in every way Possible. I have done nothing wrong. The only Valid Issue / Concern is SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP. Something I Told them about that I WAS DOING without their even noticing it. Why you ask? Because I am Honest. I teach My Kids Honesty. Regardless of if you will get in trouble. I teach them Values. I DO NOT Teach them Communist laws. I teach them Values and Morals and More to to the Point I ALLOW them the chance to use them.
 
When I Asked My Oldest Daughter why She didn't sit with the other kids in her class she said to me and I Quote " I don't like " X " Because we are supposed to hold the hands of our buddy when walking between class and she refuses to hold me hands so I won't sit with her. " But what About All your friends darling? " They sit with her so I just do my own thing unless she's not there "
 
I Am Very proud of you Sweetie for not caving in and for sticking by what you feel is right.... But why doesn't she hold your hand?
 
" I don't Know "
 
Don't you think you should find out before you judge her?
 
" Yes :: Looks at feet :: "
 
Ok Sweetie... Well speak to her when you see her next and see what happens ok. And I am Very proud of you for doing what you feel is right 
 
 
" OK Daddy "
 
My Daughter has Not only displayed at 5 years old what most teens don't understand but also choose the correct way to go about it. She could of tried to turn the other kids against this girl but didn't. But then again she is 5 and I doubt she'd think like that. BUT at 5 years old she is Already showing morale fibre and not only that But she is HAPPY About. I do NOT Care what the School Says. I Do NOT Care what DoCS Say. I Have provided DoCS With Copies of the GP's Health check stating that ALL Our kids are spot on for the age. 42nd percentile. That none of them have any signs of Abuse OR Neglect in any way BUT I am taking it one step further. I am taking them All to a Paediatrician for a Specialist report. UNFORTUNETLY it is the Paediatrician DoCS picked out SO if I feel things are Biased I Will call for a 2nd Opinion.
 
 
I Do Not care what they think of me. I do not care what they do to Me. They will NOT Harm My Kids and Any Such Attempt I Will respond in the way the law states I can respond when Someone is at risk of Physical Or Mental Abuse. They Will NOT Harm my kids. They WILL NOT Do to them what They did to me. My Kids are worth a thousand of Me And I Will not have Wackjobs telling them they are any less than perfect the way they are.
 
 
I Have notified DoCS That due to lies, Abuse And False Allegation Made against myself and My Fiance that I WILL be Audio Taping ALL Future interviews at DoCS Offices, Have Informed them I WILL Be Video Taping ALL Home Visits. They have refused to Consent And have threatened Legal Action Against me if I try.
 
 
I Am going to do it anyway And word the start of every recording with
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I Am letting you know THAT I will be recording this home visit / interview with Video / Audio. IF You Choose to continue with this home Visit / Interview THAT will be considered Consent. If You do Not Consent PLEASE LEAVE NOW.
 
 
If they have nothing to hide then they have nothing to fear from having ACTUAL Evidence not Just what they say.
 
 
Their Jobs are to protect kids. Where they fail they are accountable.
 
 
After they made many threats about removing our kids I said I have had enough Bullshit ( I did use those words ) And Stated I Will start legal proceedings against them )Now they have stated they Are NOT going to take our kids away BUT if we fail to comply with the next " Safety Plan " They will take us to court to force us to comply.
 
If the Safety plan is fee-sable We have no problem complying But We will not place our kids in anothers care Especially after All the horror stories here and as of late on the news. We are BOTH here for our kids. We do NOT need to have someone else raise them.
 
 
To Date I have gone through DoCS Complaints and was referred by them to contact the OMBUDSMAN as the Complaints unit was not happy with responses and with everything that was going on they did not feel they could get to the bottom of this quick enough to stop our kids being removed. The OMBUDSMAN has looked into it and has now referred the complaint back to the DoCS office and workers I have complained about... 
 
 
DoCS has such a Wide Range of Power That we can not help. BUT if they start proceedings to take your kids away call us right back so we can represent you. Like HELL. Sure we will get involved once it has gone to far to really do anything.... And then we just get our pay check and we don't really care if we actually help you.
 
Nope. No Legal Aid for me. And I have no Doubt this will go to court eventually. They Already tried building a case against ME for Abuse and I believe were looking at having an AVO Placed out on me forcing my Fiance to choose between our kids and myself which I WOULD NOT Allow her to do. With the exception of when I was younger and forced into a parent role to my younger brother I Have no record of being violent. In fact I was Almost Always the victim as when I was 5 I had outburst of Anger at a School bully who knocked my 2 front teeth out and that horrified me to shy away from violence. I deplore Violence. I did not even retaliate in 2004 when I was out with a Friend in Sydney after my Fiance gave me permission to go out with my friend to a night club when I was hit in the head with knuckle dusters ( Brass Knuckles ) I Simply turned and looked at the 2 guys and said do you really want to do this.
 
I Have never EVER Been violent. But That being Said I ALWAYS Stood up for what I believed was RIGHT. Even against friends and Family and work mates. As Such have never been very popular But to me doing what is right is MORE Important than What makes you liked. And I am trying to pass that onto my kids. Another reason Why I Won't back down to DoCS. My Fiance and I have not done a single thing to even come close to the child Protection act ( Which I Have studied and am still studying in preparation for what I really do feel is coming ) And As such we have nothing to fear and nothing to hide. I have offered to do drug tests. For no reason other than to cut them off from using that as a reason. Hell I don't even take Pain killers unless I have a Migraine that won't go away. When I Was Younger I was a Typical teen. BUT I have grown up. Even if I did do things considered Illegal ( Pot when I was 16-20 ) I used it for my Chronic insomnia. I have been on other sleep meds to help me sleep. Problem is WHEN I find one that works if I take it more than once every couple of weeks it stops working. Alcohol DID work... Well to be Specific 2 Shots of Mississippi Moonshine ( A Liquor that was I think around 16% Alcohol ) each night after work would slow my brain down so I could sleep.
 
But as Previously stated I Rarely drink. And when I do it's usually just a couple of beers.... Maybe half a dozen to a dozen IF I am celebrating something Like My Fiance's B*dam My B*Day Or even Christmas after the kids go to bed. I Don't Smoke Pot Anymore and haven't for years. I kind of stopped when we found out My Fiance was Pregnant And as such I did not want anything that could be used to take my beautiful baby away from me. Do I Wish I Still smoked.... Sometimes when a Really bad migraine kicks in and I just want to sleep it of. But that is just it. I DON'T. I CAN'T. I am a Parent and My KIDS Come first. I am responsible for them. Not some care worker. If I am to Teach My Kids Responsibility how can I do it when I palm them off to someone else so And I Quote " My Fiance and I can have a Holiday ) Thank you very much DoCS BUT I Will take a Holiday WHEN I can Afford it and I can take my kids with me to somewhere they'd like to go. 
 
 
My Bloody story you hypercondriact. In Full Gory details.
 
My Kids eat Either Toast, Corn Flakes, Weetbix or Pancakes for Breaky, Sandhiches AND FRUIT for lunch and at school, For dinner it is usually some form of meat ( Chicken, crumbed steak, chicken snitzelm fish, sausages and the likes etc etc etc  with veges ( Potatoe, Corn, Beans, peas and cauliflower ) They get mainly water and milk to drink. A Little soft drink every now and again. They get take out once a week.

My Kids have come home from school covered in bruises. COVERED. When I have smacked my kids WHEN they needed it I never left a bloody mark. NEVER.
 
Why don't you get off your sanctimonial High horse and do some bloody research
 
 

 

 

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If you EVER face the lies I have then and ONLY then can you comment...yes, blah blah... DOCS "occassionally" help someone, but let us pause for a moment and consider the facts...ALL your step children  (including Bianca Stark) have had DOCS knocking at the door.... WAKE UP ?!?!?!?!?!@ ?!?!?!?! You are NOT abreast to any REAL politics let alone media. aspire to "make" friends with a DOCS worker....but guess what???? WE the people HATE DOCS!!! your commerardery is in vain.... do you get that?

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http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/80-children-foster-care-who-died-abuse-and-neglect-were-three-years-old-or-youngerchildren 6-10 times more likely to die while in the care of the departments accusing parents of being unfit.

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B***** A******** I am angry. if that other incident didnt occur im sure within the next week i would of gone to the police

 

So the above comment was made by my eldest daughter B***** (last night) who I haven't seen since leaving the family home on the 9th of April 2009. It was a comment amongst many others made about a post my Uncle put up on Facebook. That post was the judges comments in sentencing me for a crime I committed against my neice/foster child.

My point in showing the above comment made by my daughter is that there was indeed a real need for intervention in our home and DoCS did not intervene.

It may be of interest to know that around a couple of months earlier to the incident(crime) took place with the young person in my care I had been to DoCS with my ex wife (DoCS worker) and informed them that we wanted to end our care of her. DoCS listened to me insisting that she be placed somewhere else as I didn't have the ability to cope with her needs at the expense of trying to care for my own 3 children and younger foster child.

DoCS told us that there wasn't anywhere else to place her so they would "reclassify" her as a "problem child with special needs" and significantly increase our carer payment because of this.

I didn't know what to do, I'd been to the "professionals", I knew I was struggling big time in running the home but here I am walking away from DoCS still expected to do the job and based on the outcome with DoCS,  just don't worry about anything because now we would be getting alot more money for the child.

Why can't DoCS give the real parents more money or buy them a better car or do up their home or some form of actual and practical assistance in their living standards (which is all some people would need). DoCS have no problem whatsoever giving more money to Foster carers and I know this, I told DoCS I cant look after her and my other children properly and they give me more money?!

My daughter is damaged by what she calls my abuse, not the crime in itself that happened with her cousin, but rather the home environment she and all the children lived in including the poor children who were placed in emergency respite care at our home. Is my daughter less important than any other child? Of course she is no less important and now I am estranged from her and there is noway I can justify my past lifestyle and I am not trying to. I am sorry for it and I have said so.

DoCS failed my children and their Mum was a DoCS worker, DoCS is not being run properly and children and families are suffering because of it. DoCS are out of touch with reality and unaccountability seems to be fueling this mentality. What am I to do? I know my failings and crimes belong to me and I do not wish to take away from my responsibility for that.

 As I heal more and time passes I realise to my horror the implications this DoCS lapseness and corruption and unaccountability has on so many families and my own family was one.

Now, within the last week, DoCS (Inverell and Armidale Offices) hasve been visiting my wifes family and freinds and even our neighbours children, (apparently they have all had reports of abuse made against them) and while DoCS is interveiwing them they are informing these families that I am a registered paedophile. I am on the CPR but not for paedophilia and have never even been accused of such an act. I am living in a very small town so this type of false information will spread like wild-fire. How does this help my family now? Is DoCS concerned for my wifes children?

They have an open case with my wife and it is supposed to be for the "best interest" of her children but DoCS have only ever spoken to my wifes children once.

What is the DoCS actual motivation for defaming me and causing social isolation for my wife and her children? What level of responsibilty do DoCS have in acting upon reports made? Is this interveiwing the children and families actually a way for DoCS to get a defaming story out and discredit anything I say about them?

I don't know, all I do know is that there are more families upset now, parents being told they cant see their children and children being frightened by DoCS and for what exact purpose?

DoCS might want to make my life hell but what type of government funds their workers to go out into the community at tax payers expense and harass children and families as an avenue to spread thier lying story about me? If my ex wife wasn't a DoCS worker would this be happening? Is my ex wife using her position to haunt us? Do they want me to stay quiet and too afraid to speak?

Because I have lots more to say!

 

God save the children.....please

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fyi

"PLETHORA OF PROBLEMS" IN CHILD PROTECTION

by Kathleen Dyett and Anna Morozow, ABC May 31, 2012, 7:33 pm 

The ACT Government has promised a $25 million boost for child protection amid renewed evidence of systemic failings.

An examination of the sector by Public Advocate Anita Phillips makes it clear vulnerable children still are not getting the support they need.

It is the second stage of a review commissioned by the Government after it emerged several children had been placed in the care of an unapproved agency.

She has uncovered a "plethora of problems" within the care and protection service.

Ms Phillips says despite the best efforts of front line staff, they are battling against systems which do not support them, and that has led to a reactive and defensive work environment.

Ms Phillips reviewed the files of 100 children placed in emergency care over the last three years.

She says there was no evidence of early intervention before the child was removed from the family and placed in emergency care.

"People are just making knee-jerk responses rather than taking measured, strategic approaches, and that is why this whole review was to look at the strategy around emergency responses, and we didn't find any," she said.

Ms Phillips said there was evidence of good practice but it was inconsistent.

She has made seven recommendations for change including a new framework, a review of all kinship care placements and better record keeping.

Community Services Minister Joy Burch says she has agreed to all bar one of them.

She says the Government will inject an extra $25 million into care and protection services in next week's budget.

"$15 million dollars of which will go to the out-of-home care system, we'll have $5 million in for more frontline workers, an additional $5 million that will go towards youth justice with a focus on outreach and community based programs," she said.

But the ACT Opposition says throwing money at the system will not change the problems.

Liberal MLA Vicki Dunne says a 2004 report made similar findings.

"I'm very angry at this report. The Vardon Report told the Government that this was what was wrong with the care and protection system," she said.

"Eight years later they're being told again. Why would throwing money in next week's budget make any difference?"

Greens Leader Meredith Hunter is also concerned about how the funding will be spent.

"It's good to hear that more money will be put into the system, but my concern is that we're not stopping to look at how we can best use that money, how we can best support the workers," she said.

"Management needs to understand that this is a call to action, they cannot be complacent."

The Government's full response to the report will be released on Friday.

 

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Care system fails children

Scott Hannaford

May 31, 2012

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/care-system-fails-children-20120531-1zkta.html#ixzz1wWKIUCyG 

 

 

The Canberra Times

A review of the ACT’s youth care and protection services has revealed widespread failings in the system designed to protect the territory’s most vulnerable children, from inadequate risk assessments prior to removing children from families through to virtually non-existent early intervention and prevention for those at risk of harm.

ACT Public Advocate Anita Phillips released her final report into the ACT’s emergency response strategy for children in crisis yesterday, noting a raft of problems and a reactive, defensive culture that had emerged from an over-worked and under-supported Care and Protection Services staff.

Ms Phillip’s report found poor record keeping, little evidence of case supervision or transparent decision-making and a large percentage of staff who had been brought in from overseas who had little understanding of the ACT community who were likely to leave their jobs unless the culture of Care and Protection Services improved.

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/care-system-fails-children-20120531-1zkta.html#ixzz1wWIun3q1 

 

‘‘Staff, despite their best efforts and hard work, were often battling against systems that failed them and as a consequence the case files reflected a defensive workplace environment.’’

Ms Phillips said the review of 100 cases confirmed the crisis situation identified in an interim report released in October was not an aberration and was systemic, although there had been some improvements with a number of early recommendations already implemented by the Community and Services Directorate.

The report recommended immediate changes including developing a strategic framework to improve case supervision, improving record keeping procedures and training and reviewing all kinship care placements to ensure young people’s voices were heard in the decisions that were being made about them and their families.

It follows the Public Advocate’s not been qualified for such work.

Community Services Minister Joy Burch said the ACT Government would agree to all but one of the report’s seven recommendations and would pledge a combined $25 million of extra funding to the sector in next week’s ACT budget. More than $15 million would be spent over three years on out-of-home care, including kinship care and foster care, $5.3 million would be spent over four years on additional staff, and another $5.5 million would go towards supporting youth justice services.

‘‘As the Public Advocate has recognised and welcomed, there has already been considerable reform within the Directorate in the past six months following her interim report and the Government will continue to implement these necessary reforms,’’ Ms Burch said.

But opposition and crossbench spokespeople said simply throwing more money at the problem would not fix it.
ACT Liberals Family and Community Services spokeswoman Vicki Dunne said there had been little progress since the highly critical 2004 Vardon report, despite significant spending to address staff  shortages of staff, growing workload and failures to properly protect vulnerable children and young people.

‘‘I speak to kinship carers who tell me they have never been police-checked. The culture is wrong, and that goes all the way to the top. It has to be asked, what have they been doing for the last eight years?’’

Greens spokeswoman Meredith Hunter said the government appeared to be taking the same approach that had failed in the past. Young people would continue to end up in the justice system, unemployed and homeless unless the failings could be addressed.

‘‘We can’t keep coming back here in six months, two years, three years and just throw more money into this bottomless pit. We need better training, support and to have the voices of children, foster and kinship carers respected and listened to,’’ Ms Hunter said.
 

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/care-system-fails-children-20120531-1zkta.html#ixzz1wWIun3q 

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I have friends who have exposed bigger people than you Kathie Parker. Judges, senior politicians and police. They have gone all the way to the supreme courts and never lost. Bring it on. I will go to jail before I bow to a DoCS manager.

G'day Michael,

I gather that LukesArmy.com is your own domain name and that you pay the domain registratioon direct.  Where is the host server for your website.  If if is in Australia you are vulnerable.  It is best to be with a host overseas.   In the US the Freedom os Speech Amendment to the US xonstitution applies.   The police will try to have the host terminate your website.  ou need a webhost who will defy Qust police and tell them that the US Constitution amendment applies and they need a US court order to close your site. 

The police would try to sue you per the Cth Croiminal code sec 474.14 Use of a carriage service to harass menace or cause offence.   They are having a lot of problems with me on that so they may be a bit reluctant in future.

s's picture

hi every one, I am about to open a can of worms here, I do not want mud slinging or derogatory comments nor do i want intimidation .....

haveing said that i will tell you my story ....

from 2004 till 2010 I was a foster carer where Kathy parker or armstrong as I knew her worked at the local csc .. Kathy first started as a youth councellor with a local family service unit .. she was offered a job at the local csc and along with her was Tina Zart, Helen Jones who was known as Lynn Jones, Belinda Murray, Anne Radburne, Lester Moran, Grant ?... they are all mongrels ... they never helped in anyway ....

Whilst I was a carer there it was definately a dictatorship and it was total control of everything .... one time I had a call from Tina Zart to say that the teenager was hanging round with the wrong lot at the local show and I had to do something about it ....

I was brought into the office another time and read the riot act on how I was not to be familar with the staff ..... it was a need to know basis only ...

there was a attempted murder charge on a  placement when it was found that they had firebombed my house whilst I was asleep /// no help or compensation for repairs .. insurance wouldn't cover it as that child was a invited guest ..

the same child 11 months later came into my house stole my keys and my car and went joy riding over town  ending with my car being smashed into a historical building writing it off ..... no compensation.

so much more I could say but I won't .. Michael if you want any more info pm me and I will give you as much info as you want ....

I had to leave where i was living due to the continued harrassment from the workers which ended up with 4 allegations that have been proven to be false ..... thank god for record keeping and diary ..... I am owed thousands of dollars by the dept for repairs jus tto name one thing ....please feel free to pm me if i can be of any help to any one in australia ....

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Well there was also a girl in Queensland who stole the foster carers car and smashed it into a tree and killed herself this year, I believe in the last school holidays end first semester, 2012. All they did was say "bad kid" not a thought to the devasted mother and father or the foster parents. It is vile and disgusting at the expense of human lives. It is time it stopped, and the whistleblowers were acknowledged, stories listened to and believed, and THEN POLICE AND COURTS ACTED ON THE INFORMATION AS THE ACTUAL REAL TRUTH AND THE KILLERS AND REAL ABUSERS OF FAMILIES WERE JAILED OR EVEN GIVEN THE EYE FOR AN EYE TREATMENT. I say kill a child then you should forfeight your own life. JUSTICE FOR LUKE AND THE OTHER DoCS CHILDREN WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES FOR GREEDY INHUMAN SCAVENGERS WHO WORK FOR THESE DEPARTMENTS PRETENDING TO HELP PEOPLE.

Liz's picture

Are you right in the head?

There's no such thing as a government body. It doesn't exist. There are only individuals asserting non existant authority over other individuals. 

Of course we should make each individual accountable for their actions. Buildings don't take children away. Acts and Legislation don't smash down front doors and grab children in their pyjamas. INDIVIDUALS DO, and I don't give a f*ck what legislation they think they're legally acting under, they made that decision, and Luke's dad, and the rest of us here for the cause in Luke's Army will make sure they're accountable.

You think that telling a child, wrongly taken from his or her family for years, that it was all the government body's mistake, that no actual individuals are accountable, is going to mean jack shiny to that child?

EVERYONE HAS A CHOICE. GET REAL BIANCA.

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Liz said"

"There's no such thing as a government body. It doesn't exist. There are only individuals asserting non existant authority over other individuals. 

Of course we should make each individual accountable for their actions. Buildings don't take children away. Acts and Legislation don't smash down front doors and grab children in their pyjamas. INDIVIDUALS DO """""""""''''''''...

 

DITTO

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My Story 
 
It All Started approx 4 years ago.... in  2008.... BUT a Threat was made 3 days after My Baby boy was born ( Back in 2006 ), the highest point in my life happened....
 
Well To Start off a brief glossary of My Realationship with my fiance, Love of my life and Mother of my 3 beautiful PERFECT while imperfect kids
 
We started dating when She was 16 and I was 18. We met when I was 17 and she was 15, And we have now been together for Almost 10 years. She is hard to describe in words but I think Social Butterfly is the closest you can come to without getting to know her... She is a Happy, Radiant person who just makes you smile even when she upsets you... We have had our ups and downs like I think Most couples.... She was not well when we started dating, As she had Anorexia and Bulemia from involuntary starvation just after she turned 16 but I Won't get into that here... I was Subjected to DoCS Mal-treatment when I was a younger teen and Was sent to foster homes..... The first Foster home was with a single mother.... When I was dropped off I could not see the floor for the garbage and food piled on it. I Made money when I was younger and as All this faoster carer fed her Own kids was sandwhiches I Would buy myself some pies or Pizza or chips after school as I had no love of a Sandwhich only diet as at Home Since my Mother was a So So cook I Took over a large portion of the cooking as I LOVED it and took numerous cooking and hospitality courses in High school.... When The foster Parent And I Do use the term " Parent " Very loosely, Demanded I eat Vegemite sandwiches with her kids and I'd refuse on the grounds I was already full from food I bought with money I earnt she would yell and scream at me that it was not right to buy myself food without  buying her and her kids the same food. To which I would reply They were not my responsibility... She would get verbally aggressive and make threats towards me about me going home ( I will add at this point I was removed from my home because my younger brother and I Were Hostile towards each other and I Will get into that shortly )After 2 weeks of this I just walked out. Packed my school bag with my home work and school work, Clothes, Grabbed my fishing gear and walked out
 
At this point I was returned Home By DoCS, for some weeks to maybe a month or 2. I was then placed in another foster care home. I Actually liked it there. And to this day I Still speak when I can to that foster parent. Whilst I was Living with this foster parent cause I was too far away from the gold course I used to collect gold balls out of, clean up and sell on weekends to the players I sought out a job at the driving range on the next street. I Was told That he had no work for me So I asked if I just collected golf balls out of the drain that ran along side the driving range as long as I returned them to him.. I was told I could. After the first day He hired me And I was making about $10-$20 a day which I saved. After I had a couple of hundred $ saved up DoCS informed the carer that I was a " Flight risk " and ordered her to take my money away, Mind you for years I had been saving All my money and spending it on fishing gear which is still my one free passion... When I returned home from school and after " Work " Went to place my day's wages in my money tin it was gone. I confronted the Carer and she told me she was told to take my money away as I was a flight risk. I walked out the door. Left my clothes, Grabbed my fishing gear, Jumped on my bike and took off.... Police found me at Approx 0200 fishing / sleeping At a Local reserve. End of DoCS foster homes for me
 
As I previously mentioned My Brother and I were Hostile towards each other... Here is My Explanation
 
My Parents divorced when I was in year 4 I think, My Younger brother in year 3... Maybe I was in year 5 and he was in year 4 But A Lot of my Past is groggy from a DoCS Issue. As Such She moved us from Sydney ( Moving was not new to us as we moved Every year when I was a Kid sometimes 2 times a year ) To Dorrigo where her mother lived. Suddenly I was thrown into male role model role when I was not ready for it Nor did I have the capacity to fulfill it and I resented my brother for forcing it on me, My Mother for ordering me to take my brother with me when I went door to door selling knick knacks I'd Make and sell for pocket money....
After a while I realised that when my younger brother got aggressive and abusive and out of control a " Kick up the backside " Would pull him in line usually.... But for my mother he was still out of control.... a year later we moved to Sawtell
 
 
ENTER DoCS
 
Life was OK before DoCS involvement... It was far from great buy managable...I Would Alternate between fishing, Bodyboarding and collecting gold balls to sell during the week. Saturday I'd sell the gold balls and Sunday I'd go into Coffs to Fish and relax ( After school work had been done ) Now DoCS Is on the scene. My Brother had since I was staying out most nights to 2100 or later and on weekends till 0200 or even over night fishing trips had gone to use the term " Insane " He had started bashing the neighbourhood girls and the boys as well to stealing things with the neighbourhood boys to out right attacks on people. I Will admit here when I heard of him ( being 12 at the time ) Beating up on an 8 year old girl and leaving her in bruises I Would give him a taste of what he had dished out and that would be the end of it for a couple of weeks.... then I'd be fishing every night and he'd get egged on by his " Mates "
After I found out it was his friends egging him on I put my foot down. My Mother was not exactly able to do anything and At times I think she really didn't care as she is one of those people who are obsessed with how you look rather than how you are... DoCS came in swinging... I was forced to stay home in the afternoons instead of going fishing / Bodyboarding / collecting golfballs. When My Brother bashed a kid from the area or stole he was taken for " Time out / Cooldown time " as it was called where he was taken to a movie by the DoCS worker... After many weeks of me asking why he was being rewarded for breaking the rules and Actually breaking laws it was still going on
 
Then 1 Night I had a friend stay over on the friday... My Mother went to the club as per usual... So it was myself, My friend and My brother.... Now I Will say my friend did not like my brother... And as such he did goad my brother into a reaction and in all fairness I Could have done more to stop him from gaoding him into a reaction... But as I previously said I was resentful. My brother Actually picked up a meat cleaver and my nice new butcher knife from the kitchen and chased us around the house with them. I managed to get my mate into my room while my brother chased me around and then I went to my room and slammed the door shut just as my brother swung the knives at me. As Soon as those knives hit my door I opened and Hit him HARD in the face... Probably not the right reaction but he dropped the knives and ran to his room
 
My Removal from home
 
 
That ends the brief over view of my history with DoCS Until
 
 
The day My Son was born....
 
We were living in North QLD, On Hayman Island
We found out we were going to be parents... I Will say I HAD Planned on being married with a fulltime job and at the very least a mortgage before having kids ( I predicted and hoped for 27-29 ) But alas good things usually come at un expected times :) And When I say unexpected I mean unexpected. My Fiance had a rather bad reaction to Implanon ( The Implant, The Bar, A Birth control method where a Metal tube I believe is inserted in the arm and it releases over 2-3 years birth control, Kind of the same as the Needle but a longer term affect ) And she was removed from it after 6 months. We Were told she could not start birth control until her first cycle... But that never happened... We were told because of the complications with the Implant her cycle could take several months to start up again.... LOL..... How wrong were we all
 
After 3 months My Fiance Was starting to eat more but not put on weight, She was fatigued and her sleeping pattern was changing. So I took her to mainland under the pretence of a shopping trip and suggest " As a Joke " a Pregnancy test at our GP. As Her being pregnant scared her because we were well over 2000 km's from either her's or my nearest relative. It came back positive ^_^ She was scared... But mostly of telling her mum that she was pregnant at 18. She had initial fears That I think every young mum has, but as the pregnancy wore on and she saw the ultrasound of our Son she changed so much. It changed from something she was scared of to She literally GLOWED with happiness.
 
The day before My Son was Born
 
My Fiance had a routine appointment at the Coffs Harbour Office ( We had moved from North QLD to ease her fear of lack of support due to distance to be closer to her family ) And We had concerns over her loosing a LOT a fluid during the 3 hours leading up to it.. When we had the appointment They Dr who she was seeing would not administer a test to see if it was amniotic fluid and flat out refused to have another Dr check.. As she was busy training a student DR on how to determine the position of the Baby and so on.... SO we go home... BUT by the time we got home after the 30 min drive back she had lost over 2 ltrs and we turned around and I FORCED them to administer the tests. Her waters had broken.
 
1900 that night
 
Visiting hours in the maternity ward to which she was now admitted were over. LUCKILY we had packed everything from clothes to snacks to baby goods to maternity products and Had them with us. My Fiance asked if I could stay cause she was scared / worried I wouldn't be there with her when the time come... The Mid wife said they can do an internal exam to see if she is dilated enough to warrant me staying. They put the call through to the Male Gynocologist and OBGYN. At Which Point my Fiance asked if a Female Dr or Mid wife could perform the check. We were told it would be ok and the called the DR back and said My Fiance wanted a Female to perform the check
 
Midwife comes back saying DR says it is too late to perform a check so it isn't going to be done.
 
My Mother came down from where she was staying so she could be close by when Her grandchild was brought into this world. After about an hour of her promising she was taking me somewhere close enough that I could get back in a hurry I spoke to My fiance and told her I'd be back as soon as I was called and not to fret... She was initially concerned about me staying outside the Hospitals Maternity ward on a bench but as she found out I was going 15 mins away she did get a bit woried.
 
I Settled her down, Promised her I'd be back before anything happened and waited for her to go back into the Maternity ward ( The Coffs Hospital Does have a Mental health unit there and some patients have been known to escape )
 
0300 the next morning
 
I get a call that My Fiance ( Really sorry about referring to her like this but I am not sure I want to mention names ) has gone into full Labour. I get to the hospital and get into the delivery room after being told at Maternity that she is crying for me... Anyways 14 mins after the phone call I Witnessed my Son brought into this world. And a More joyess occasion and Life altering I had never expirenced
 
3 Days later
 
Hopsital Head Mid Wife ( One of them ) Refuses to Allow us to go home with our son
 
5 days later Same story
 
7 days later Same still
 
14 days Later I DEMAND an explanation
 
Am Informed that My Fiance and I are not fit to be parents by head Mid wife because We were Happy, Excited, Looking forward to being parents, Eager to Welcome our Son Into this world and we were not taking it seriously. Not like they complained about the suitcase of clothes for my fiance, or the suitcase of baby clothes for my son, or the back pack with maternity products ranging from 3 different sized cip Maternity bra's to maternity pads and breast pads, wool cream, Nappies, Baby powder.... Basically everything you need for a new born ( As I said we were Highly excited about our Son )
Am Also informed that DoCS has said we are not allowed to go home because they are currently seeking proceedings to take our brand new Boy away from us. My Fiance bursts into tears. I calm her down and assure her I'll get to the bottom of this as I had heard stress could cause issues with milk production and as she was going to be breast feeding as it is better for our child it was imperative to me to keep her happy and calm.
 
 
I Stormed out of the Hospital and called DoCS right away
Seems the Mid wife spoke to soon as I had got in before the complaint had finished being lodged and DoCS assured me that they had nothing to do with it
 
I Stormed up to Hospital Management and Made a formal complaint and threatened legal action based on discimination
 
I Spoke to the evening shift head Mid Wife, She cleared my Baby boy to come home after 2 weeks of hell from the staff and a brief DoCS issue. 2 weeks later a formal Apology from the hospital arrived in the mail
 
 
Now back to 2008
 
I am 3/4's deaf now in both ears. Why I will eventually get around to the tests Needed to find that out and to to determine if it can be fixed but for now that isn't important.
In 2009 We were ( Still are ) Living in Grafton. Because I do have hearing issues and could not hear the front door if someone knocks on it from the lounge room or the kitchen I Had moved the PC I bought into the front / entrance room to the unit we were living in So as If the mail man or anyone came to the door I would be able to hear them.
 
My Fiance was at Tafe 3 days a week I think, 2 of my 3 kids were in day care. It was the one day a week where My fiance was at Tafe and due to the Day care my 2 eldest went to not having All the days available that she went to Tafe I had All the kids home with me that day.
 
DoCS turn up at about 1700ish
 
Someone had called them and said we had left the kids at home alone.
 
I Told them flat out " You have to be joking. I am here All day long, The only time I leave the front room is to change nappies, Make lunch or snacks or to get more toys / put them away OR if I have to go to the bathroom. I Actually had neighbours who I'd chatted to not long before The complaint was called in as I was hanging washing outside while All 3 were down for naps. So I can only guess Someone came to the door when I went to the bathroom.
DoCS leave but not for long
 
2009
 
We had to move... So My Mother took All 3 of the kids over the weekend so My fiance and I could finish the last of the packing and clean the house as we had moved just about everything except cleaning products and a few pots / pans / plates which we would need over the weekend to finish the cleaning and eat.
 
ON the monday morning
 
My Mother returned in a BAD mood. She had had a bad weekend with her husband and his friends who Have a child with a mental issue which tends to make her violent without her even realising it. I did not know They would be there or I would never have allowed my kids to go out there in the first place.... Anyways
She is in a foul mood. As she pulls up my son jumps out of the car as she is backing up. She almost runs him over. I have a Good go at her for 
1. Having him in the front seat
2. Allowing him to open the door before the car stopped
3. For Not WATCHING him after we warned her he is advanced for his age
 
Understandably she is already in a bad mood and that " Attack " on her I guess was the straw that broke the camels back. She starts yelling at my Fiance and I, Accusing us of going out and drinking All weekend and using drugs and partying instead of cleaning because when she arrived While my Fiance loaded the cleaning products into the car I was hosing off the outside of the house to finish up. After those accusations I went off at her and So did my Fiance. We had been cleaning for 2 days from 0600 till 2300 and were tired.
 
My Mother lashed out. She knew violence Had no affect on me as I was beaten At home ( NOT really beaten... I was smacked... a LOT... But in All fairness I did get into a lot of trouble ) And at High School I was Bullied and beaten by other kids. Although I never fought back as that would of got me grounded or suspended I took a LOT of beatings so they didn't phase me.... So she lashed out at My Fiance.  I Got involved and after stepping between them and my mother trying to go around me to keep Attacking my fiance and trying to jump over me to keep attacking her I had enough. I grabbed her wrists and HELD her down while My fiance removed All our stuff from the car while we waited for the police to arrive.
 
After 20 mins with still no police I told My Fiance to go inside. Once behind a Locked door I released my mothers wrists and told her to " Eff Off and never come back, And we will be seeking to have her charged with Assault and have an AVO placed on her "
 
My Mother went straight from our house to the police station at which time the Police turned up
 
We are told My Fiance's Face being Black with bruises, Throat being swollen and bruises, Missing hair and having bruises All up and down her arms and upper chest was not good enough as proof of an Assault.... And that My Mother had just been into the office crying cause " I had attacked her and told her she would never see her grandbabies again " I Will state here My Mother did have bruises around her wrists. Police say they will not charge her with assault and will not place and AVO on her and I Was lucky not to be charged with assault and Unlawfully detaining someone. 
 
Later that day
 
We finally get to our new house. Have been in the house for 20 minutes when 2 DoCS workers turn up. The Police had called them because of a domestic disturbance where Kids were present.
 
The 2 DoCS workers Start Telling us we are BAD Parents cause of All the boxes and bags of stuff around the house. We stated we just moved and had literally been in the house for 20 mins and were in the middle of doing dinner before putting the kids to bed and starting unpacking.
 
Not good enough. We are bad parents because as we moved stuff from one house to the next we didn't unpack it. Mind you we only had access to a truck to move everything for one hour on the friday.
 
I tell them to take a hike and things don't magically unpack when you walk out the door to get the next lot of items to come over to the new house.
DoCS leave after verifying ( Via Our new Tenancy agreement ) That we had Just moved in, Not like the Police didn't inform them!
 
A Couple of weeks to maybe months later
 
Someone starts using DoCS to Harrass us. Everything from using drugs infront of the kids, To Refusing them medical treatment ( My Eldest Daughter had a sniffle ), To not feeding them, to beating them, to no clothes, to no beds, to garbage all over the house,  the list went on and on.... All told I think there were maybe 10-20 Unfounded, blatant lies made about us for what ever reason I don't know... BUT these lies were made within the course of a month. With one week we had 4 visits from these 2 DoCS workers. NOW they knew from their visit the day before or 2 days before that the Reports were unfounded. Yet they came out anyway to Harass us.
 
The Male DoCS worker would sit there and Have a go at my Fiance and I because we had our Shoes is an Empty NAPPY Box and not on a shoe rack. THAT was their only concern at the time. And how they felt Justified in coming back every time a complaint was made as we were such bad parents cause we had our shoes in an empty nappy box instead of on a shoe rack.
 
The End Of their Visits in 2009
 
They ( The 2 DoCS Workers ) Had made an Appointment with us. We organised it with them at our home as it was a follow up check up to see if we had removed the nappy box as use as  Shoe storage. We had organised the appointment for approx 2 hours before My Fiance had a Job Interview across town. When the 2 DoCS officers never showed I Suggested to My Fiance to go an hour early and try and get in early so if they do try and time their arrival for when she would be out of the house we could catch them off guard and she would be here.
 
My Fiance got into her appointment early and was 10 minutes from home when The Male DoCS worker turned up with 2 Police officers
I Asked them to wait about 5 minutes as My Fiance was on her way home and should be here shortly as she had originally requested the time for the appointment as she had questions she would like to ask.
 
Male DoCS Officers Said " NO. I have to cite the children NOW " 
 
So I said 1 sec. Went and got my kids from playing and brought them to the door.
 
Was Ordered to Open the Door NOW.
 
Asked my kids to please go play in my daughters room as it is farest from the door and had a proper door ( Not a Sliding one ) On it 
 
 I State In a few minutes when My Fiance gets home.
 
DoCS officer tells me if I do not open door he will Authorize Police To Kick down my door and use any means necessary to remove me from the premises if I do not comply.
 
I State that is illegal without a warrant and I had already said I will as soon as My Fiance gets home
 
DoCS Officers Tells Police to Kick down my door, At which point my kids had come out of their room because of the raised voices and one of the officers unlatched his gun and had his hand on it.
 
I Quickly opened the door. I Did NOT want my kids seeing a gun drawn on their dad, Nor would I of backed down as as soon as someone pulls a weapon on me it tends to get me very agressive. And I did not want my kids to see the result of Gun + Agro Daddy.
 
2 Minutes after I opened the door in Walks My Fiance. She was NOT Happy.... And even less happy after hearing what had already Happened
 
As Soon as DoCS and Police leave we Launch Offical complaints about both the Police and the DoCS worker.
 
No DoCS Visits for the next few years
 
 
But then again no actual punishment for those involved either
 
 
Onto NOW
 
Approx 9 weeks ago
 
My Daughter is in Kindy, My Son in year 1, My Youngest has just started her pre kindy classes 
 
Both our kids were coming home from school with HIGH Amounts of bruises. My Partner did not want me speaking to the school cause I am Blunt in what I say. I do not beat around the bush nor do I take being pushed around very lightly, Especially now that I have kids as I do NOT want them thinking that is the usual thing nor do I want them to accept it if it happens to them. So as Such I Abided her wishes... I let her speak to the school... She made many complaints to both kids teachers.... And By the end of It I told her to end the Bullying our kids were happening at School Or I'd speak with the teachers and Principal.
 
She threatened the School With Legal Action on the Thursday Afternoon if our Kids kept coming home with such a high amount of bruises ( They are kids. I EXPECT them to get some bruises )
 
Friday. No new Bruises. Happy the School is finally doing something
 
Saturday Morning During or Just after Breakfast
 
DoCS Arrives. The Female Officer from the visits in 2009 along with an elderly female officer. SOMEONE called DoCS At 1600 on Friday afternoon claiming we were beating our kids senseless
 
They check the kids over. State they have a LOT of " Light bruising " We explain about the bullying at School. DoCS workers Say " So Says You "
They then procede to check the house. ( I Will go off track here for a moment to explain The previous 2 weeks )
 
2 weeks prior our Washing Machine Died. $400 for repais and 2-5 weeks wait on parts and Labor... Or buy a new washing machine for $450-$500. Luckily for us this happened Just before Tax time so we used the FTB rebate to get the washing machine AND a Dryer. Which we bought on the Wednesday and was delivered on the Friday at Approx 1300. From 1300 on Friday to about 0200 Saturday we were washing as for 2 weeks we could only hand wash and the washing had backed up a bit.... And on top of that when the Guys who delivered the new washer and dryer took our old washing machine to the Garage My Fiance noticed that bags of clothes we had stored in the garage had somehow became wet. And she brought them up to sort through them and wash and dry what could be salvaged and throw out the rest. Now back to story
 
 
The DoCS Officers noted that washing was piled up. We explained that the washing machine broke 2 weeks ago and we only had the new one delivered yesterday ( The day before )
 
DoCS Workers Say " So Says You "
At which point we ask if they want to see the receipt with the delivery date on it. They say NO
 
DoCS Workers then move onto the rest of the house. Claiming it is filthy, Dishes piled up. Garbage All over the house ( We had the clothes from the garage in Garbage bags ) We pointed out that the bags were CLOTHES
 
" So Says YOU "
We tear 2 open and prove they are clothes. They are not interested
 
They then claim the dishes Were piled up and had not been done in weeks. At which point I LAUGH And tell them we have 3 Dinner Platers, 2 Mugs and 3 Drinking glasses. They get washed multiple times a day.
 
So Says YOU
 
They move onto the bathroom. The Toilet had a film on it. It is " Filthy " I tell them flat out 30 seconds with bleach without scrubbing will get that off as it is mostly coffee stain ( from tipping cold coffee down the toilet ) And The lower bowel under the water line has a permanent stain that I have never been able to get out which was there when we moved in.
 
 
So Says YOU
 
Apart from that the floors needed to be vacumed, The windows in Winter where the temperature reaches 1 Degree at times had condensation on them and we should have them open At All times for " Ventilation "  
 
I tell them that is NOT good enough. I Point out the washing machine had broke down and we only just got a new one the day prior, I Point out that it is Winter And having my Windows open in the area we live in is not just a health risk from extreme cold but also a crime risk. I Point out hard to have dishes pile up when you only have enough for 1 meals use FOR the express purpose of ensuring they get washed before OR after every meal.
 
BUT According to these DoCS workers a family one Centrelink ( Believe me I WISH I could get a Job ) Does not have that kind of Cash on hand when we have bills to pay, clothes to buy, Treats for the kids when they get another award at School and they have behaved at Home. Treats as in a $2 toy from the reject shop / Sams Warehouse And either a McDonalds Dinner, KFC ( Which I really don't like as it is HIGHLY expensive ) Or Pizza.
 
BUT Not having $400 on hand for washing machine repairs is not good enough. Not Allowed to Budget or Lay Buy NO. Have to have the cash on Hand.
 
I tell them THAT is a Joke. $400 is what I get a fortnight ( I Actually get $430ish As My partner gets the FTB ) And with $240 a week on rent, Paying bills which piled up when my Fiance tried to do the finance for a year and managing to buy clothes for the kids, For My Fiance, Treats for my kids, At the end of the week After everything is said and done there is nothing to save. After we have paid bills and bought food everything else either goes on bills ( Including Christmas Lay buys as we do The Christmas shopping during the Mid Year Lay Buy till Christmas AT Big W T Help ease the financial stress )And For the time I do NOT have the Ability to save any money. This time next year We will be appox $100 a week better. BUT at the moment I can not afford to save.
 
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
 
End of DoCS Inital Visit. The Allegation of Us beating out kids proven unfounded but they " Found some other issues while here "
 
4 days later
 
DoCS Return for follow up visit.
 
Washing All gone as we do not like to let it pile up at ALL as with 3 kids anything piling up is a BAD idea
Toilet Sparkeling except the one stain ( 30 seconds with bleach )
Floors vacumed
Since the did not come right after a meal dishes were done
I refused to open the windows as in the middle of the day it was still freezing to the point where the kids did not want to take their jumpers off or their track pants off and as soon as they got home they grabbed their blankets and snuggled down to watch a movie with Daddy ( Pokemon, Power Rangers and the likes )
 
 
Still Not good enough. DoCS Officers Adiment we are misusing our Finances as we don't have Several Thousand Dollars on Hand ( As I notified them I WAS Concerned with 1 of their beds But had to get the car registered first otherwise it would be hell doing the shopping, getting them to school, and being able to get them to the hospital IF they needed to go ) I EXPLAINED to them that I can not simply buy one of them a new bed and not the other 2 as they will get Jealous and likely try and destroy it So I have to LAY BUY 3 beds. I Will concede right here that my daughters ARE sharing a bed as they destroyed one about 2 months ago by jumping on it and folding it in half. And As Such I have to Budget really carefully so that I can pay the Required $100-150 a week so as to get the beds ( We got 3 Beds, The cheapest Actual beds they were able to get, $400 each, Which were reduced to $349 each. ON top of that I have with the same lay Buy 3 Mattress Protectors that IF they fail to prevent any water / urine getting onto the beds the company who makes them will pay for a dry cleaner to come and clean the beds. Grand Total $1451
 
I Don't know about anyone else but I don't have that kind of cash on hand. Anytime we have even a few Dollars spare it goes on the kids. 
 
We rarely drink. Maybe 6 times a year. At Tax time I DID buy 1 Carton of beer.... It lasted 10 days. We smoke Tobacco but not around the kids unless we are outside. We don't beat out kids but we DO Discipline them when they require it... We MOSTLY try and encourage them to make the right decisions And if they make the wrong one give them the chance to realise it before correcting them. We DO Allow our kids their " Sibling Rivalry " To Which DoCS has stated that they are too young to have Sibling Rivalry and we are neglecting them if we allow them to Wrestle and work it out. IF they do get violent ( As in more than wrestling and they hit or kick ) We pull them up and send them off to their rooms. BUT THAT is neglect because we Allow them to wrestle in the first place. Yes they do get Some SOME bruises from each other And yes they can be very rough with each other.
 
BUT To Date Not 1 Single broken bone, Not 1 chirped tooth, Not 1 injury to warrant a Hospital visit. Their have been 2 illnesses though.
 
When My Youngest was 2 months old ( She was 5 weeks premi ) Her Older Brother and sister were in day care. They came home with what we though was a cold / flu.
Little did we know how wrong we were. During the night our Youngest was sniffling, Buy 0300 she was coughing, by 0600 she was wheezing and by 0900 she looked like she was having difficulty breathing. We took her to Hospital right away. She had contracted RSV. Or Respiratory syncytial virus. The DR AT the Hospital did not treat her With the exception of putting her on Oxygen. For 1 week she lay there crashing ( SPo2 Levels dropping to under 45% ) and they would do nothing no matter how much we pleaded and begged. My Fiance went to the hospital with her as I had to stay with our Older 2. THAT was the hardest week in my life.... When My Daughter Lay dieing and no one would help
 
After 1 week I Called the hospital after the DR once again refusing to perform any tests or provide any treatment and subtly hinted at Malpractice.
1 Hour later they had done Xrays on my Daughter, She had 2 Collapsed Lungs, and was drowning in fluid from both All the oxygen they had her on and another virus she picked up while in hospital. They called for a child care flight immediately. Now for the worst 4 hours of my life.
 
 We did not kn ow if they were sending her to Mater Childrens Hospital Or to Westmead. Although Westmead was closer to my Fiance's Family I had had bad expirences there and we had head a lot about improper sterilisation on surgical equipment and such so we were hoping we could go to Mater. Until the child flight arrived and she was loaded on the plane we did not find out where she was going. My Fiance went with her. I called My Mother ( Before she attacked my Fiance ) And begged her to come in ASAP so I could take clothes for My fiance and my Daughter up to the hospital as well as toiletries and baby needs. I then Had to beg her to take my oldest 2 kids while I caught a train to Where ever ( At the time I did not know if I was going North or South ) And Although I knew I should of been with My Oldest 2 kids I could not be parted any longer from my little girl when I thought she was going to die. I got lucky in that the train to Brisbane left 15 minutes after I got back from the hospital after dropping off clothes for my Fiance and Things they'd need before I Arrived At the hospital. Longest train ride in history and worst. Phone kept dropping out, Battery Was nearly dead. Had to communicate with My Fiance via SMS in case my phone died, No idea where Mater was, My Fiance unwilling to leave her side unless Our daughter was under going tests and she had to leave the room...
 
She got better. The Drs from the child care flight Gave her what the Dr at the hospital should of done from the start. 1 Single dose of Anabolic Steroid had her well enough to survive the flight. And I say well enough because she was literally Almost dead. We had to hope that she'd be able to handle the flight or I was going to loose my daughter hundreds of km's away and my Fiance wouldn't have someone there for support and THIS IS OUR DAUGHTER. Almost Killed by an EXPERT Used By DoCS in their cases till his qualifications were questioned on the stand. But that was before we knew he was not fully qualified as to which I am under taking that with the hospital. No I Don't want money. I Want His Licence. I want to stop him from doing to My Little girl and my family to another family. But once again another story
 
After that single Anabolic Steroid shot she improved dramatically. 24 hours later she opened her eyes for the first time in a week. 72 hours later she fed from a bottle. 1 week later she was discharged and was well again. 2 weeks after we admitted our girl to Hospital she was well. Mater Children's and Child Care flight Saved My Daughters Life And I can not express even to this day what that means to me.
 
The 2nd time one of our kids had an Illness, Our Boy had a high fever. And he wasn't keeping any food down. They gave us some medication for him and told us to buy some electrolyte drink for him and said he was ok to go home IF we could monitor him over night ( Temperature and if he keeps the fluids down as well as some food ) We said no problem as I have insomnia and have difficulty sleeping at the best of times I just read in his room by candle light All night till My Fiance got up and while she was giving everyone breaky I Stole an hours sleep. End Of that
 
 
 
Back top DoCS Now. Everytime one thing goes from their list of concerns Another comes up.... From My youngest's Side effect from the RSV Being a slight heart Murmur And her eyes being slightly un aligned, Us Medically Neglecting our Daughter as we are not seeking Medical treatment for something that is not medically treatable and we can only monitor, To lack of Supervision cause the kids wrestle, to us not playing outside in winter when it is freezing cold and toes are turning blue, to not opening the house up for same reasons, To Us Smacking our kids when they go to far, to The schools complaints about our kids behaviour, too which I have spoken to them and Our kids are model students in the class room, BUT when they have absolutely no supervision they misbehave! And My Oldest Daughter instead of sitting with class mates Prefers to play on the computer as she does not like the games they play. BUt According to DoCS My Kids are out of control, Lack Boundries, Are Misbehaving in class, Are diruptive, Lack Social Skills etc etc etc.
 
Was informed at an interview that DoCS is never going away so we might as well bend over and take it otherwise they will start legal proceedings to take our kids away. I WILL NOT Be blackmailed into having someone else care for my child. Because THAT is their whole " Safe Plan " In home Child care, Which I Had when I was a Young Teen and have explained why I am against here and to them, Vacation Care for My Oldest 2, Which I am Against as Neither I Nor their mother work due to lack of jobs in the area, Therefore There is NO Reason for it especially as I think They are now old enough to behave well enough to go fishing and be trusted to be careful and I feel they will REALLY enjoy it as they have seen some fishing shows and LOVE the idea of fishing so am REALLY hoping that my life long passion has passed onto them so I can go fishing every weekend if we can afford it. Next Part of Safe plan Is Pre School for my youngest, Which we have Explained NUMEROUS times as parents send their kids to pre school with the flu and likes as her immune system is weak and will be weak until she is 5-7 years old even a simply flu  can land her in hospital. At Mater the Specialist informed us to expect her to develop Pneumonia multiple times until she is about 6 as with her weakened immune system any virus she gets will likely get much worse and require hospitalisation. Since she was Discharged from Mater Childrens Hospital she has been Sick 5 times. 3 Times she had a fever ( Very slight Which me monitored every 20 minutes and gave her childrens panadol for every 6 hours as well as increased her liquid intake and switched her to custards and pureed fruit and vege for to make it easier on her digestion ) and 2 times where she just simply threw up with no fever and her not feeling sick.... WHICH we attribute to her over eating Which she does do occasionally.
 
Now this DoCS Worker has Accused us as being the reasons for her Contracting RSV, The Reason why she Almost Died And had to be Flown to Mater Childrens Hospital, Accused us of Medically Neglecting Our Precious Daughter Because we Monitor her heart Murmur ( Pulling her up when she is running around if she starts looking very tired, puffed out or dehydrated ) And get her to rest or have a Nap.
 
They have tried to Bully and threaten us in every way Possible. I have done nothing wrong. The only Valid Issue / Concern is SOMETHING I BROUGHT UP. Something I Told them about that I WAS DOING without their even noticing it. Why you ask? Because I am Honest. I teach My Kids Honesty. Regardless of if you will get in trouble. I teach them Values. I DO NOT Teach them Communist laws. I teach them Values and Morals and More to to the Point I ALLOW them the chance to use them.
 
When I Asked My Oldest Daughter why She didn't sit with the other kids in her class she said to me and I Quote " I don't like " X " Because we are supposed to hold the hands of our buddy when walking between class and she refuses to hold me hands so I won't sit with her. " But what About All your friends darling? " They sit with her so I just do my own thing unless she's not there "
 
I Am Very proud of you Sweetie for not caving in and for sticking by what you feel is right.... But why doesn't she hold your hand?
 
" I don't Know "
 
Don't you think you should find out before you judge her?
 
" Yes :: Looks at feet :: "
 
Ok Sweetie... Well speak to her when you see her next and see what happens ok. And I am Very proud of you for doing what you feel is right 
 
 
" OK Daddy "
 
My Daughter has Not only displayed at 5 years old what most teens don't understand but also choose the correct way to go about it. She could of tried to turn the other kids against this girl but didn't. But then again she is 5 and I doubt she'd think like that. BUT at 5 years old she is Already showing morale fibre and not only that But she is HAPPY About. I do NOT Care what the School Says. I Do NOT Care what DoCS Say. I Have provided DoCS With Copies of the GP's Health check stating that ALL Our kids are spot on for the age. 42nd percentile. That none of them have any signs of Abuse OR Neglect in any way BUT I am taking it one step further. I am taking them All to a Paediatrician for a Specialist report. UNFORTUNETLY it is the Paediatrician DoCS picked out SO if I feel things are Biased I Will call for a 2nd Opinion.
 
 
I Do Not care what they think of me. I do not care what they do to Me. They will NOT Harm My Kids and Any Such Attempt I Will respond in the way the law states I can respond when Someone is at risk of Physical Or Mental Abuse. They Will NOT Harm my kids. They WILL NOT Do to them what They did to me. My Kids are worth a thousand of Me And I Will not have Wackjobs telling them they are any less than perfect the way they are.
 
 
I Have notified DoCS That due to lies, Abuse And False Allegation Made against myself and My Fiance that I WILL be Audio Taping ALL Future interviews at DoCS Offices, Have Informed them I WILL Be Video Taping ALL Home Visits. They have refused to Consent And have threatened Legal Action Against me if I try.
 
 
I Am going to do it anyway And word the start of every recording with
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I Am letting you know THAT I will be recording this home visit / interview with Video / Audio. IF You Choose to continue with this home Visit / Interview THAT will be considered Consent. If You do Not Consent PLEASE LEAVE NOW.
 
 
If they have nothing to hide then they have nothing to fear from having ACTUAL Evidence not Just what they say.
 
 
Their Jobs are to protect kids. Where they fail they are accountable.
 
 
After they made many threats about removing our kids I said I have had enough Bullshit ( I did use those words ) And Stated I Will start legal proceedings against them )Now they have stated they Are NOT going to take our kids away BUT if we fail to comply with the next " Safety Plan " They will take us to court to force us to comply.
 
If the Safety plan is fee-sable We have no problem complying But We will not place our kids in anothers care Especially after All the horror stories here and as of late on the news. We are BOTH here for our kids. We do NOT need to have someone else raise them.
 
 
To Date I have gone through DoCS Complaints and was referred by them to contact the OMBUDSMAN as the Complaints unit was not happy with responses and with everything that was going on they did not feel they could get to the bottom of this quick enough to stop our kids being removed. The OMBUDSMAN has looked into it and has now referred the complaint back to the DoCS office and workers I have complained about... 
 
 
DoCS has such a Wide Range of Power That we can not help. BUT if they start proceedings to take your kids away call us right back so we can represent you. Like HELL. Sure we will get involved once it has gone to far to really do anything.... And then we just get our pay check and we don't really care if we actually help you.
 
Nope. No Legal Aid for me. And I have no Doubt this will go to court eventually. They Already tried building a case against ME for Abuse and I believe were looking at having an AVO Placed out on me forcing my Fiance to choose between our kids and myself which I WOULD NOT Allow her to do. With the exception of when I was younger and forced into a parent role to my younger brother I Have no record of being violent. In fact I was Almost Always the victim as when I was 5 I had outburst of Anger at a School bully who knocked my 2 front teeth out and that horrified me to shy away from violence. I deplore Violence. I did not even retaliate in 2004 when I was out with a Friend in Sydney after my Fiance gave me permission to go out with my friend to a night club when I was hit in the head with knuckle dusters ( Brass Knuckles ) I Simply turned and looked at the 2 guys and said do you really want to do this.
 
I Have never EVER Been violent. But That being Said I ALWAYS Stood up for what I believed was RIGHT. Even against friends and Family and work mates. As Such have never been very popular But to me doing what is right is MORE Important than What makes you liked. And I am trying to pass that onto my kids. Another reason Why I Won't back down to DoCS. My Fiance and I have not done a single thing to even come close to the child Protection act ( Which I Have studied and am still studying in preparation for what I really do feel is coming ) And As such we have nothing to fear and nothing to hide. I have offered to do drug tests. For no reason other than to cut them off from using that as a reason. Hell I don't even take Pain killers unless I have a Migraine that won't go away. When I Was Younger I was a Typical teen. BUT I have grown up. Even if I did do things considered Illegal ( Pot when I was 16-20 ) I used it for my Chronic insomnia. I have been on other sleep meds to help me sleep. Problem is WHEN I find one that works if I take it more than once every couple of weeks it stops working. Alcohol DID work... Well to be Specific 2 Shots of Mississippi Moonshine ( A Liquor that was I think around 16% Alcohol ) each night after work would slow my brain down so I could sleep.
 
But as Previously stated I Rarely drink. And when I do it's usually just a couple of beers.... Maybe half a dozen to a dozen IF I am celebrating something Like My Fiance's B*dam My B*Day Or even Christmas after the kids go to bed. I Don't Smoke Pot Anymore and haven't for years. I kind of stopped when we found out My Fiance was Pregnant And as such I did not want anything that could be used to take my beautiful baby away from me. Do I Wish I Still smoked.... Sometimes when a Really bad migraine kicks in and I just want to sleep it of. But that is just it. I DON'T. I CAN'T. I am a Parent and My KIDS Come first. I am responsible for them. Not some care worker. If I am to Teach My Kids Responsibility how can I do it when I palm them off to someone else so And I Quote " My Fiance and I can have a Holiday ) Thank you very much DoCS BUT I Will take a Holiday WHEN I can Afford it and I can take my kids with me to somewhere they'd like to go. 
 
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Hi it's kris Ava Thorne mum I have no provisisional care plan also no form143 they have ignored court order for access and we haven't even been heard in court three days ago I saw my child with injuries I alerted dcp Armadale they did nothing still nothing Friday after they told me they would he her medical assistance the took her for medical neglect which is crqp and now the neglecting her she is riddled with head lice and said her carers mean to her she is bruised and now has a wound please I need advice as I am truly dying
Krys Thorne

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